I only watched part of that interview, but it was cringeworthy how eager Joe Rogan was to try to impress him. He only seemed to agree with him that the response to COVID-19 is an overreaction without any pushback.

On the other hand, Joe Rogan is a master interviewer.

No matter what person he's interviewing, he manages to keep the conversation moving forward and the words flowing.

This is also his second interview with Elon Musk, and the first one probably led to billions of dollars in market swings wrt tesla stock.

and I wouldn't be surprised if the first interview probably gave him 10x the listeners.