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You need to spend some time googling “wrongful convictions” there’s literally thousands of these cases and who knows how many we don’t know about.

The further we broaden police powers to dragnets the more innocent people will be within their crosshairs and have to be “filtered” out, often at the accused expense.

Next watch some “first day in jail” videos on Netflix and see the ridiculous stuff that gets people in scary overfilled jails, even for small even legitimate reasons and it’s enough to make it obvious there’s a serious problem with justice and law enforcement in the US.

One of the worst that affected me was an older middle class guy who ended up spending months in jail because he lost his job and at some point in the last 5yrs had a kid with some woman he met on a christian dating site who refused to have an abortion. The courts eventually ruled and said he owed $4k+ in child support in a short time span (a month?) otherwise you’re going to jail, when he was already struggling to live having lost his job. He was one of the few white guys, the stories of the black kids (most looked straight out of highschool) were often even smaller and even dumber reasons which immediately exposes them to living with other real criminals for extended periods of times which they then become friends with... etc.

The US is extremely punitive and the use of jails/prisons and stupid bail schemes is beyond excessive. That makes wrongful convictions all that much worse. Which all happens well before the trials even start.




I'm not denying the existence of false positives. They existed before geofence data and I don't think we have solid evidence on whether they are occurring more in geofence cases than they were before.

I'm not going to debate whether American jails need serious improvement. They obviously do. That's orthogonal to investigative techniques IMO.


I addressed the connection between the two multiple times in my comment. It’s highly relevant we can’t simply trust them with such a powerful tool than inherently includes countless innocent people.


I'm not sure what "two" you're referring to that you addressed the connection between. In any case I think we understand each other and just disagree, and that's fine. All the best.


The "two" are the use of technologies like geofence warrants and wrongful convictions or charges at the accused expense.

Geofence warrants seem too broad to me, providing them with access to people (and therefore probable cause for heavier warrants) merely for passing through an area of a crime.




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