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It's interesting that vanilla JS feels like a breath of fresh air nowadays. I guess the JS cycle is now complete (?)



It depends on the scale of your project. Not using a cement mixer is a breath of fresh air if you just need the mortar to fix a single brick.


I feel the analogy is more like: You need to fix a single brick so you buy 72 pallets of bricks, buy a fork lift, 5 cement trucks, buy a garage to park them, try to acquire at least 2 cement factories, hire 4 people to do logistics, someone to do HR, 12 truck drivers and 4 fork lift chauffeurs. Placing the brick is outsourced.


I like that this comment is from “6510”. I loved the old 6502 and did a teeny bit of assembly programming on that back in the day.


I ran into a 13 year old master glue coder on irc one time. Since he was 9 he touched/used 3 js/php frameworks/modules/libraries per day. He said he didn't know any programming. (not entirely true ofc) He knew how to ask for something. There was always someone willing to write the data transformation after he broke down the problem properly. He showed a bunch of hilarious things he made. I praised him for keeping all of his projects. He said it was to embarrassing and deleted pretty much everything. I ask him things like, what do you do when things don't work, they stop working or stuff gets really slow. His solution was to delete everything and start from scratch using different modules where possible or just delete the project. I learn from him that the glue-ables are for the most part not high level enough. I wish I had learned to just delete everything and start over, regularly, just like that. ha-ha


the 6510 was a 6502 with slightly different memory layout to accommodate graphics on the commodore 64.


I have seen projects that were big in scale only because they were overengineered and tried to stuff every fad into the stack.


I don’t feel like vanilla js is ever a breath of fresh air.


Try doing VBA for a while.


Indeed. The cycle will be complete once Angular meets the fate of its predecessor, Flash.


ES7 with async/await makes plain JS actually usable even with its usual warts.


Depends on what you're doing. It could be full circle, but for something larger ... not yet IMO.




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