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This made me think, how long did it take for cars to acquire basically their modern standard interface, and have personal computers been around that long?

Apparently, the Austin 7 popularized what are now standard controls for cars in 1922 (although it wasn't the very first example), and the IC auto was patented in 1886, which means it was about 36 years before people mostly settled on one interface.

By comparison, microcomputers have been around longer, but if you consider the GUI personal computer as a separate class, the Apple Lisa came out in 1983, which was...36 years ago! But it doesn't seem like we are converging to one standard.



I feel like we have converged!

Without exception, laptops are two panels connected by a hinge, with the top containing a screen and the bottom a keyboard and trackpad. The “desktop” metaphor is universal — draggable, tilable windows adorn a hierarchical filesystem.

Basically all modern phones are rectangles dedicated entirely to their screens, with which you interact using your fingers. Turn them on and you get a grid of app icons, each of which takes up the full screen when launched.

Sure, there’s a lot more variation on top of these foundations — but then, computers are way more complex than cars.


Me and the wife have a car each. The reverse gear is in a different position in each. On mine the headlights are controlled with a rotary switch at lower right of the steering wheel, in hers you twist part of the left stalk. If you accidentally press the centre of my headlight control you raise or lower the lights - hilarious. Some cars have the handbrake on a stick behind the steering wheel, some have it as a lever in the central console. Some have a small paddle.

Then there is the which side of the road do you drive thing ...


Those are minor. As late as the 60s motorcycles had non-standard controls. Standard:

Right hand - throttle and front brake

Left hand - clutch

Right foot - rear brake

Left foot - gear shifter

You have to use the clutch and gear shifter together, and you have to have at least one foot down when you stop. This layout makes a lot of sense.

Back in the day you had things like suicide shifters: you shift gears with your left hand and the clutch is at the left foot meaning that you have to take your hand off the handlebars to shift gears (hence “suicide shifter”), and as you come to a stop you have no foot to put down since you should be using bother the clutch and the rear brake. And that’s just one of many examples of weird layouts. Basically imagine driving a manual car where the gears are shifter with your left foot, the brake is hand operated and the clutch is a part of the steering wheel.


Oy, going from BMW to Fiat was fun.

BMW has R in the top left, while Fiat has it where BMW put 6th.


It's funny you mention cars, because there's definitely a new trend towards touch screens, and it happened fairly recently.


There's also the increasing number of weird controls for automatic transmissions.

However, I think the last major difference in the basic controls of a car was automatic vs. traditional manual, and that seems to be resolving.

I can imagine things that nobody seems to be doing - like what if you have a CVT, but manual control of the gear ratio through a lever with no detents?




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