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> I doubt you can name a single Republican politician who has run and been elected on this platform.

A whole lot of Republican politicians since around 2000 (including George W. Bush) have run for and been elected to federal office on an overt platform of dismantling both the revenue and benefit payment sides of Social Security.

Sure, the soundbite has been “saving social security”, but the concrete policy of dismantling that lies behind the soundbite hasn't been secret, it's been explicit and public, widely covered, and defended by candidates on debates, etc. The people voting for them either support it, don't think it's an important issue, or aren't paying any attention. They might be duped on what they'll get out of it, but the substance of the policy hasn't been concealed.



Yeah, same George Bush. George Bush's effort to privatize social security: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_debate_in_the_...

RE: Medicare Part D, that's a pretty controversial topic. In the political air of the time, passing something like that was an absolute necessity. Bush/Republicans got it passed in a way that (a) involved big benefits for big pharma (e.g., no ability of government to negotiate drug prices) and (b) failing to pay for it in budget, thus hugely increasing deficits and national debt.


George W Bush pushed through Medicare Part D, which was essentially an entirely new social program, fist proposed by Bill Clinton.

You're right that they do want to undermine these programs (they certainly talk about it), but they've proven consistently happy to toss aside their beliefs and values to win elections.


Are you talking about the same George W Bush who lead the expansion of Medicare to include Medicare Part D?

That one?


Medicare Part D is one thing GWB did, and that solution was acceptable to pharma.

Another thing GWB did is proposing partial privatization of Social Security. As linked nearby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_debate_in_the_...

From a certain PoV, these are not contradictory, because there were profits to be made in both cases.


So, can you name a single Republican politician or not? I'm still waiting for a name and a winning campaign from this century.


> So, can you name a single Republican politician or not?

I did, though there are more.

> I'm still waiting for a name and a winning campaign from this century.

Nice moving goalpost, but George W. Bush’s 2004 campaign (where social security privatization was a central theme) still counts.


Paul Ryan.




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