You know what? Fine. I think the increased trend in cycling in day, San Francisco is neat. I have questioned the sanity of those who thought plastic pylons were adequate “protection” wherever I’ve seen them.
Streets are typically city-owned and managed though, and if you’re in a place with a tax regime like California’s, then you’re in a place that relies heavily on things like sales taxes and capital gains taxes which tend to go down the gutter, because good old fashioned property taxes, while extant, are not nearly adequate enough when 1. the assessed value of a property is completely disconnected from the market value which 2. leads to an illiquid property market which artificially inflates prices and 3. the actual property tax rate is largely outside the hands of the people who need to draw up a budget(supervisors, councilors, legislators).
So you want more and better bike infrastructure? I want more and better bike infrastructure. I know! Let’s pay for it! But how are we going to? We could tax and spend, but now you need to see if voters would like more and better bike infrastructure. Oh I know! We can tax the future taxpayers! Sell bonds. Kick the can down the road. I’m sure there is nothing wrong with that.
So now we know how we’re going to pay for it, how much are we going to pay? Well, how much do you like unions. If you’re a union guy, you have no incentive to get the job done any faster than on time, and plenty of incentives to not get it done on time. Well what about contractors? Small business owners have every incentive to get the job done on time because after this, they’ve got their next job to move onto. The more projects they can work in a calendar year, the more money they can make.
Ah, but you don’t want them to just go in wily nilly, make a mess of things and disrupt the flow of traffic and business, wake up the neighborhood and just make things generally unpleasant! You’ve gotta have rules! Sure, you’ve gotta have rules. In fact, you’ve gotta have an environmental impact report, confine portions of the project to certain days, confine actual work to certain hours, have adequate signage posted everywhere, and marketing fluff posted all over about how all this “stuff” is going to make life worth living (here) even better! All of which costs time and costs money. And quite a lot of this really just extends the time it takes a project to complete.
Like Irving Street, San Francisco. An extensive project to kick two or three bus stops down the road and extend the sidewalk a few feet on a couple of street corners which has taken, I don’t have a number on this, but well over a calendar year and has either just wrapped up or is about to wrap up. Actually I take that back, I just remembered part of the project is to move a couple of stops to 5th or 6th Avenue, the ones at 4th and 7th precisely are to be consolidated in the middle, and last I checked that ain’t finished. To say nothing of the numerous public meetings that must have gone into this project.
It was even a good plan, it just took too damn long. But hopefully we can repeat this process block by block, and create dedicated bike infrastructure of the kind that would make a Dutchman feel right at home, and if it takes 30 years and enough money to fund a train between San Francisco and Los Angeles, then who cares because we’re rich and therefore time and money don’t mean anything at all! Even if you only have the same 80 or so years to love and live as everyone else.
So let’s dream big, and maybe tackle the crisis or more like tragedy that is well, every single part of a modern day public project from start to finish so we can maybe build some bike superhighways from here to six blocks down the road within one human lifetime and only a little bit over budget.
None of this extended, anti-American rant has anything to do with bikes in particular. You're just complaining about doing anything at all with the government and with unions.
So, build some private bike infrastructure. If Elon Musk wants to make Hyperbike, sure, let's see if it gets built and forms part of a functioning network.
Also - how come your arguments don't apply to building roads themselves? How did Central Freeway get built? How did the Bay Bridge get built and rebuilt?
I was too young for the Central Freeway, so no comment on that one. Feel free to pull in the relevant data yourself though.
The Bay Bridge was built in a different time under a different regulatory regime and with fewer rules. The Eastern Span, because the Western Span hasn’t been “rebuilt”, much like the Central Subway (Not Freeway, I’m intentionally switching gears here) was built in a more modern regulatory regime, over budget, in more time than planned, and with defects which will limit the effective life of the new span (near as I’m aware the Subway doesn’t suffer this particular deficiency).
Let me be clear, I support building more bike infrastructure, but if we start tomorrow without addressing the regulatory and public budgetary issues of today, it will take more time than necessary and cost more than necessary and not by small amounts. I don’t want to privatize our bloody Streets, I want a sane taxation and budgetary regime that doesn’t depend on the will of finicky voters, worse: a supermajority of them in the case of California under certain conditions.
Oh and my friend, not all criticisms are inherently Anti-American. This is just that regular kind, the kind or a dissatisfied taxpayer dissatisfied with the level of service provided by the State and Local government, and the conditions which ensure that ain’t changing anytime soon. It’s the thing that guarantees that if you dream big and imagine every City an Amsterdam, you’re going to be disappointed. The more friction there is to doing stuff, the less stuff that voters have the stomach for to have done.
tl;dr Ballot box budgeting (to say only the least!) is insane, and ballot box budgeting for bikeways will net you more twigs than bridges.
Streets are typically city-owned and managed though, and if you’re in a place with a tax regime like California’s, then you’re in a place that relies heavily on things like sales taxes and capital gains taxes which tend to go down the gutter, because good old fashioned property taxes, while extant, are not nearly adequate enough when 1. the assessed value of a property is completely disconnected from the market value which 2. leads to an illiquid property market which artificially inflates prices and 3. the actual property tax rate is largely outside the hands of the people who need to draw up a budget(supervisors, councilors, legislators).
So you want more and better bike infrastructure? I want more and better bike infrastructure. I know! Let’s pay for it! But how are we going to? We could tax and spend, but now you need to see if voters would like more and better bike infrastructure. Oh I know! We can tax the future taxpayers! Sell bonds. Kick the can down the road. I’m sure there is nothing wrong with that.
So now we know how we’re going to pay for it, how much are we going to pay? Well, how much do you like unions. If you’re a union guy, you have no incentive to get the job done any faster than on time, and plenty of incentives to not get it done on time. Well what about contractors? Small business owners have every incentive to get the job done on time because after this, they’ve got their next job to move onto. The more projects they can work in a calendar year, the more money they can make.
Ah, but you don’t want them to just go in wily nilly, make a mess of things and disrupt the flow of traffic and business, wake up the neighborhood and just make things generally unpleasant! You’ve gotta have rules! Sure, you’ve gotta have rules. In fact, you’ve gotta have an environmental impact report, confine portions of the project to certain days, confine actual work to certain hours, have adequate signage posted everywhere, and marketing fluff posted all over about how all this “stuff” is going to make life worth living (here) even better! All of which costs time and costs money. And quite a lot of this really just extends the time it takes a project to complete.
Like Irving Street, San Francisco. An extensive project to kick two or three bus stops down the road and extend the sidewalk a few feet on a couple of street corners which has taken, I don’t have a number on this, but well over a calendar year and has either just wrapped up or is about to wrap up. Actually I take that back, I just remembered part of the project is to move a couple of stops to 5th or 6th Avenue, the ones at 4th and 7th precisely are to be consolidated in the middle, and last I checked that ain’t finished. To say nothing of the numerous public meetings that must have gone into this project.
It was even a good plan, it just took too damn long. But hopefully we can repeat this process block by block, and create dedicated bike infrastructure of the kind that would make a Dutchman feel right at home, and if it takes 30 years and enough money to fund a train between San Francisco and Los Angeles, then who cares because we’re rich and therefore time and money don’t mean anything at all! Even if you only have the same 80 or so years to love and live as everyone else.
So let’s dream big, and maybe tackle the crisis or more like tragedy that is well, every single part of a modern day public project from start to finish so we can maybe build some bike superhighways from here to six blocks down the road within one human lifetime and only a little bit over budget.