>Note that this is to make Haskell more readable to non-Haskell programmers (which is a bit of a weird goal IMO). It is not for readable Haskell in general. Advice like "not using $" just makes code less readable if you're familiar with Haskell and is quite frankly just bizarre
This is why no one likes Haskell programmers and why the community just sucks.
You're telling me that it's _more difficult_ for a Haskell programmer to understand parentheses than for a non-haskell programmer to understand functors?
I can't think of a single haskell programmer that doesn't also know at least 2 C-style languages.
Meanwhile, there are many C-style programmers that don't know Haskell at all.
If the goal is to remain an impenetrable fortress / secluded monastery, the Haskell community is a safe bet for the Benedict Option[1]. But if the goal is to become popular and get others to understand the benefits of Haskell, it seems to be a culture problem within Haskell, more than anything else.
> This is why no one likes Haskell programmers and why the community just sucks.
I like most Haskell programmers and I don't think the community sucks more than any other language community. So I guess that proves that assertion wrong.
> If the goal is to remain an impenetrable fortress / secluded monastery
I am pretty sure there is no such goal :D
> if the goal is to become popular and get others to understand the benefits of Haskell
I am pretty sure that is a goal for some Haskell people and not for others. For me personally I had a lot of fun learning Haskell. It taught me to become a better developer in any programming language.
This is why no one likes Haskell programmers and why the community just sucks.
You're telling me that it's _more difficult_ for a Haskell programmer to understand parentheses than for a non-haskell programmer to understand functors?
I can't think of a single haskell programmer that doesn't also know at least 2 C-style languages.
Meanwhile, there are many C-style programmers that don't know Haskell at all.
If the goal is to remain an impenetrable fortress / secluded monastery, the Haskell community is a safe bet for the Benedict Option[1]. But if the goal is to become popular and get others to understand the benefits of Haskell, it seems to be a culture problem within Haskell, more than anything else.
[1]: https://www.amazon.com/Benedict-Option-Strategy-Christians-P...