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How in the world do your kids get together with friends without screens? Do they have prior notice?

Serious question. I'm 40 and couldn't do that without a screen. I go off and play board games with some folks and we usually (but not always) use facebook to plan. A couple of folks don't have social media (by choice), but those folks aren't exactly taking phone calls nor does anyone really appreciate unexpected visitors. (I personally won't answer the door if I don't expect a visitor).




My teenager calls friends on her phone. My younger kids walk to their friends' houses and knock on their doors.

The idea that "nor does anyone really appreciate unexpected visitors." is a recent concept. When I was growing up, that is just how it worked - you knocked on a door. If they were busy or could not play, you respected that and left. If they really didn't have time for you, they just wouldn't answer the door. Obviously, you'd make plans if you didn't live near each other, but kids running around the local neighborhood pulling each other out of homes to play outside was literally an every day experience.

It is truly a difference in generations at this point. I find it disturbing and annoying to get texts and phone calls, but friendly and welcome for friends to stop by and say hello.


-Not the OP, but living in a Norwegian small town (population 5,000), my two oldest kids (aged 5 and 10) are just sent outside to find someone to play with - they have several friends living within a few minutes' walk, and what sparse traffic there is is moving at less than 20mph.

While there sometimes is some parental organisation by phone or text, for the most part, local kids just have to go out to see who's available, then be home by whatever time we decide to be the latest.

I realise this will not work across all locations, but out here in the boonies it works a charm.

If some kid comes by asking for my kids and they are not in, (s)he just walks to the next house or playground trying their luck. If I expect my kids back soon, I just invite the kid at the door in to wait for them.


My nephews, during no-screen time (which, for them, is usually a light punishment for something; my sister and I have not reached the level of practice that GP discussed), usually just go to their friends' houses. Their furthest friend lives about a mile away. The rest are nearby.

For some reason, when this happens, they usually don't end up just doing screen stuff with their friends. No idea why. Maybe exercising to bike/walk to their friends' houses gets them in a play-outside mood?

I admit it would be trickier for more remote kids, but in that situation asking a parent to set up a play-date (or making a no-screen exception for calling friends on the phone to schedule) would likely work well.


Most of the other answers to this comment are at least a little bit ignoring the “… which only works if the other kids in the neighborhood haven't already tuned their habits to the popular chat app and won't bother dealing with the weird kid who uses anything else” part. Which is in turn its own mirror of the adult world…


I still organize with family via phonecalls, and friends via group text - which can be done on flip phones. I won't label that cruel mockery of an LCD - that flip phones have - a "screen" ;)


I’m less than 40, and I grew up without screens. It wasn’t a problem. Phone calls work just fine.


For that, you need a phone without a screen.

Not impossible, but likely it'd be a purpose-bought feature phone.


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Not for the majority of households anymore


Most don't use one.

Most have access to one, in the developed world.

So there's the option, but it's a service change for many. Which is an argument against your comment.

If you're taking the broader view -- outside developed countries, or to a time when POTS / PSTN are deprecated or abandoned, and I could see that happening within the next five years given recent trends, possibly not. Which is an argument for your comment.

My experience is that both landline and mobile have their own extreme annoyance and distraction factors. So be it.

Outright dismissal may be not fully appropriate and premature though.


At least in the US, the 50% crossover of households without landlines was a few years back.


Absolutely, and I'm agreeing with that.

Though again, that's households without landline service. The households still have landline access, in the sense that they're wired to the network.

The actual penetration is closer to 20% now in many regions. Staggeringly low. And again, I think PSDN as a whole -- that's mobile dialed and VOIP SIP calls, as well as POTS -- may not be long for this world. The spam / robocall issue is the tip of the iceberg. Personal and business fraud is another major element.


I'm not even sure the land line wiring in my house is functional at this point, to be honest. You could always get a VOIP adapter and plug your old phone into it, though.


They're relatively affordable. Probably less than your data plan. No-screentime may take a bit of planning and preparation.


$60/mo for long distance calling with CenturyLink where we are.


My landline, if I had one, would cost three times more than my voice/text only phone plan.

For median household income it would cost 1.5% of after tax income for just the landline


You can’t just handwave away 10+ years of cell phone proliferation with “landlines exist”. It’s disingenuous.


I don’t have my friends’ numbers memorized.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_book

In ancient times, the frequently-called numbers list was pinned next to the phone.


We used to use pads of paper for that.


You can write them down on paper. No-screentime may take a bit of preparation and planning ahead.




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