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So if they cannot afford half a million in wages they should either close or move offshore?

Offshoring is what is happening and will accelerate. Search the article for 'Toronto'.




You ask a great question: If a business isn't able to employ American workers at competitive pay, what purpose does it serve for the country? Why should it be here or exist?

I have sympathy for cash poor startup founders, but offering substantial equity works wonders. Like a real amount, not something that rounds to 0. It's hard to feel bad for someone who wants to keep all the upside and not pay a good salary. Someone making 500k elsewhere should be a key hire, so spend or dilute yourself accordingly.


If most American startups aren't able to hire American workers at competitive pay and start moving little by little to (say) Canada, aren't there a risk that the whole VC/startup ecosystem will slowly move there? If the Apple/Google/Amazon of tomorrow are Canadian, how does that serve USA or American workers?

It's a short term vs long term balance. As an American you should want US to remain dominant in the startup ecosystem. Restricting startup access to skilled workers is counter-productive in the long run, even if it serves your short-term interests.


Businesses do not exist merely to serve their host countries. They serve the needs of many people, including shareholders, customers, employees and the communities (not just countries) they are based in.


> You ask a great question: If a business isn't able to employ American workers at competitive pay, what purpose does it serve for the country? Why should it be here or exist?

One would assume that the business still pays taxes, bills, rent etc.

It's still a net gain to the economy, especially when the alternative is for the work to go overseas.


Instead of fighting over the same people for a decade, they could try hiring some junior people and letting them take on increasing responsibility. The guy who made Stardew Valley lived in Seattle, had a CS degree, and couldn't get a job! It worked out for him in the end, but not for the companies constantly whining that they can't find workers.


Yes, our co-op programs were successful in providing a junior pipeline.


> So if they cannot afford half a million in wages they should either close or move offshore?

Unironically yes. Thats is what they should do. If you pay below market wages, well sucks to be you, I don't care if you complain.

But to give an actual good face alternative, they could hire lower skilled employees from non-traditional backgrounds, and train them up.




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