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Fair point as applied to the wider government. But a little less convincing in the context of the Snowden leaks which also showed that this kind of data was then used to extrajudicially kidnap people of any nationality on any territory and subject them to any number of human rights abuses. There is of course a difference in scale, I'll hand you that. But it's unclear if that difference in quantity is big enough to make it a difference I quality.



Sure, but I assume that even those who were kidnapped were, in majority, plausibly interested in terrorism or something in that regard. So even though NSA snooping you is bad, at least they're mostly interested in terrorists or I guess spying other governments, I don't know. What I do know, that in China a big reason for government to spy you is to stop you from criticizing it.

I just can't buy that China is better than US regarding human rights. Or do people actually think the opposite?





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