Who are allegedly blowing up rice markets filled with women and children in Iraq. Remember, there is no trial.

Also, according to the HRW article:

> The Chinese government is pitching the proposed change as merely an extension of the conditions of the existing practice of residential surveillance, or “soft arrest,” to suspects in state security, terrorism or major corruption cases. “Soft arrest” allows police to confine criminal suspects to their homes for up to six months without trial or due legal process.

Here, read about one of the many people detained and tortured by the United States who turned out to have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri

A different Khalid al-Masri is a suspected member of al Qaeda. So they tortured the wrong Khalid. Oops.

This is why basic things like the right to a trial, open court proceedings that journalists can attend, the Geneva convention prohibiting torture, etc etc are so important.

To trust a government to decide guilt in secret is to be ignorant of history.

Enough with the whataboutism. Everybody knows about the dirty business the US gets up to. It doesn't excuse Chinese authoritarianism and human rights abuses.

Have you ever spoken to a Chinese? They have their own good intentions too. Besides that, why do you always trust that our governments’s label of “terrorist” is never self-serving or opportunistic? The civilians we bomb every week might have a different perspective

Or for guys who had an opportunistic neighbor who wanted his land and was willing to "rat him out" to the US forces desperate to capture some bad guys.

Or some poor schmuck whose name was blurted out by some other poor schmuck who thought that reeling off some random names would make the torture stop.

The US does intend it for terrorists, but the US also intended to neutralise "WMDs". So, believing either US or China is crazy.