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Well, when you say,

> Buckminster Fuller ... would think that your diagnosis is utterly misguided.

I think Bucky did identify greed as a major part of the problem, eh?

Although he says,

> Each of the giants of today's great Grunch is a quadrillionfold more formidable than was Goliath. Each is entirely invisible, abstract, and completely ruthless—not because those who run the show are malevolent but because the giant is a non-human corporation, a many-centuries old, royal-legal-advisor-invented institution.

Which kind of sounds like what you're saying, no?

BTW, I agree with you that,

> We have lots of incentives, policies, ideologies and systems where completely normal people are behaving in a way that produces harm to others.

However, I used to believe that we could solve all our problems by setting up the "right" system (I read "Walden II" at an impressionable age.) But now I think that (as I said in this thread elsewhere) all our problems are now at root psychological or spiritual. Our systems (I believe) would rapidly become sane if we ourselves were to become sane. I don't think it's possible to "impose" sanity, as it were, from the system "down" to the individuals.

I do believe in Bucky's vision:

> What I hoped I had made clear in Critical Path is that the inherently half-century-long design science-revolution phase of attainment of universal economic success has been successfully completed and now needs only the bloodless socioeconomic reorientation instead of the political revolution to exercise humanity's option to "make it" for all.

And his conclusion:

> ...the individual discovery of God by a vast majority of human individuals—not the discovery of religions, but the discovery that each and every individual has an always-instantly-open, no-intermediary-switchboard-authority-to-contend-with, no-interference-of-any-kind, direct "hot-line to God": i.e., the weightless, nonphysical communication occurring teleologically between the differentially limited, weightless, nonphysical, temporal, special-case mind of the individual human and the comprehensively integrated, macro-micro unlimited, weightless, eternal, generalized mind of God.

Cheers! :-)




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