Hmm. Didn’t some _real_ car companies need bail-outs from the US government?

mdorazio · on July 16, 2019

That has nothing to do with the parent comment, which was about manufacturing processes and planning. The bailouts were the result of overproduction and high labor costs in an unexpectedly shrinking market.

greenhatman · on July 16, 2019

Parent comment doesn't have much to do with anything. Who decides what a 'real' car company does?

RegularOpossum · on July 16, 2019

You mean like how every U.S. Tesla ever sold has been heavily subsidized with tax rebates? And how they actually got a U.S. Government loan? And how they got further tax credits from Nevada for building the Gigafactory there?

cptskippy · on July 16, 2019

As opposed to oil subsidies that are reported at $4 billion annually with estimates that they're actually somewhere between $10 and $40 billion?

The tax rebates amount to ~$4 billion subsidy for a BEV manufacturer. Maybe we should just eliminate subsidies on both and see what happens.

RegularOpossum · on July 16, 2019

"Maybe we should just eliminate subsidies on both and see what happens."

I am completely in favor of that proposal.

neonIcon · on July 16, 2019

Weird.. Almost like the majority of other corporations in the US..

dpkonofa · on July 16, 2019

You mean like every other EV in the US also? Those are all subsidized to exactly the same amounts yet you don't see them selling like gangbusters...

Whatarethese · on July 16, 2019

What you're describing is smart business.

RegularOpossum · on July 16, 2019

So is lobbying for a bailout from Congress by that criteria.