What does "losing all grounds for discussion" mean? Discussion with who? The decision makers responsible? How are we discussing anything with them now? Nobody knows their names, or at least not enough people do. What is the value of discussion with them anyway? Are we going to talk them out of being absolute bottom-feeding assholes?
To be clear I am not advocating vigilante mobs of any sort. I would like to see these people's homes with protesters in front though.
I think we agree on the goal, not on the methods. It took decades for these companies to become what they are. If you listen to some people you should just burn them to the ground and go personal vendetta mod on their executives.
What I'm saying is that we should be careful about how we do it, because in fine the "how" is as import as the "why". Things don't happen in a vacuum, you have to deconstruct them and get to the root causes, otherwise you're just rushing to another failed system. Let's say you manage to get the execs out, what do you think will happen ? The new ones will turn everything 180 degrees and sell drugs at loss ? No, why ? Because the whole system is tweaked for profit.
Every time health pops up on HN, the majority of Americans defend their system and criticise the European way. There is a bit of a cognitive dissonance here, people can't expect a private/for profit company to do the right thing when it comes to public health. On top of that the demographic of people who voted Trump very much intersects with the one needing cheap health care, it clearly indicates that people are voting against their own interests in term of health, that alone would hint that there is a much bigger thing going on than "greedy execs control everything".
I think there's a lot of room between "we can't know their names lest any of them get inconveniently shamed" and "burn them to the ground".
But yes, I agree with the rest of what you're saying at least partially. Root causes are important, I just think there's a danger of going from that principle to never actually doing anything because we're looking for one more link in the chain and ignoring the assholes right in front of us.
To be clear I am not advocating vigilante mobs of any sort. I would like to see these people's homes with protesters in front though.