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> always-negative/outrage attitude

That's a meaningful insight. I think Web is in a place now where anyone with technical insight is frustrated. Yes, frustration is the right word. And confused. And it's this mix of confusion and frustration that has people going around bad mouthing all browsers, or at least I think so. Mozilla Firefox is the only significant browser that has the economic incentives to take care of privacy (there's no debate about that right? well there could be Safari, but it's closed source). I'm pretty close to chanting "the end is nigh". If you compare the resources available to the privacy-invading businesses, and the privacy-preserving businesses, how does it look? Or maybe regulative action will be taken? 100x more restrictive and better thought through than GDPR should be enough. Somehow I don't see that happening. Someone with a lighter outlook, chime in.



    If you compare the resources available to the 
    privacy-invading businesses, and the
    privacy-preserving businesses, how does it look? 
I think this highlights an underlying problem: invading privacy has proven to be extremely profitable, which gives the companies that do it disproportionate resources when it comes to controlling the privacy discussion.

    Someone with a lighter outlook, chime in. 
Oops, nope that's not me...


Vote with your dollars and your eyeballs, and retreat from the parts of the Web that are abusing you and everyone else. You lived fine before Facebook and Instagram, you can live fine without them now.


>there's no debate about that right?

Sure there is. Mozilla depends heavily on revenue from Google whereas Apple doesn't. For Mozilla it's life or death and for Apple it's not (to be the default search engine).

There isn't a single tech company where the business incentives are more aligned with privacy than Apple.


If you think of "privacy-preserving" for a company as a costly virtue, then the standard advice is to appear virtuous without actually bearing all the cost of truly being virtious.

Since they are closed source and secretive, there is a significant information asymmetry and we will never know how honest they are being.

Firefox, on the other hand, has an incentive to honestly preserve privacy, as their attempts to test the water on privacy-reducing features have a high probability of becoming public.




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