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Do you have a source on that new banks do not use mainframes? I'd love to learn what new banks use to talk to older banks.



From an EU perspective, most interbank communication for SEPA is through XML following PACS or CAMT xsd’s (so there’s a PACS format to transfer money, a CAMT format to inquire on the status of a payment etc.) sent via an intermediary clearing house. Used to be huge XML batches, but now moving to small XML messages.

Internationally also “MT” messages are used, which is also a file with specified format.

So it doesn’t really matter what stack you run, as long as it can create files and send them out :-)


Cool! Thanks for sharing! I have heard that some banks interconnect directly with IMS but I have no source for that.


I can't verify 100%, but I think Orange Bank (subsidiary of the telco provider) is entirely built on the cloud. I believe they built all their systems ground-up 2 years ago, but I could be wrong. When they acquired Groupama Banque, I think they basically started over on the systems.





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