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If you are foreign to the US and want to get in you need to accept their conditions that they deem needed for your entry. Even though is a questionable practice, you are doing something (provide biometrics) in order to get something else (access to a foreign country)

The point here is that you are a CITIZEN of the EU, you need to subject to conditions that give you no benefit when traveling abroad.




> "The systems covered by the new rules would include the Schengen Information System, Eurodac, the Visa Information System (VIS) and three new systems: the European Criminal Records System for Third Country Nationals (ECRIS-TCN), the Entry/Exit System (EES) and the European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS),"

It looks like those are all travel-related systems rather than national identity systems?

(e.g. the UK operates SIS: https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/border... while not being either a member of Schengen or having a national identity system?)


You already need to submit biometric data in order to get a passport. That's how they get these data in the first place. In EU countries that have ID cards you also already need to submit biometric data when applying for one.

This only merges existing databases, which is a reasonable thing to do when you have a single border (Schengen area) and obviously want to quickly check anyone.


If you're a US Citizen you also need to submit in order to get re-admitted into your country of birth, or just to gain a US Passport (after 2007).

So I'm not defending the EU, but the US is already doing exactly this.


I have never had to provide biometrics at the US border.


Not the same as providing biometrics at the US border but in the same neighborhood of discussion regarding trends:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/...

Don't show your boaording pass -> gate opens anyway -> WTF?! -> tweets ensue: https://twitter.com/mackenzief/status/1118509708673998848


You haven't flown internationally since 2007?


Not the same person, but I traveled to China in 2009 and the only biometric I had to give was a photo for my passport.


Yes, I have. What biometrics do you think I’ve given up?


> If you are foreign to the US and want to get in you need to accept their conditions that they deem needed for your entry.

Except, AFAICT, Canadians. (Unless you want to sign up for Nexus.)




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