> I've had my credit cards frozen multiple times because I did something their fraud detection deemed shady
A frozen credit card is not a frozen bank account. Your money is still available in the bank. You can try to paint fraud protection as a negative but the vast majority of consumers disagree with you. Not a real issue.
> No, because you never have to give out your private key, but you do have to give out and protect your credit card number
You're moving the goalposts. Giving out a credit card does not require a user to be vigilant about security, they simply leverage the number when they need to make a purchase, no back ups or additional work required.
> It's clear you've made up your mind, I don't even know why I'm typing this out, you aren't going to change your feelings.
Not an argument. It's clear you've made up your mind, I don't even know why I'm typing this out blah blah blah. See how pointless that is?
> I'm asking you to let some of us make different choices
Nobody needs my permission to do anything. I can assert that cryptocurrencies are useless and you can ignore me if you like.
> What about the 1% who are being failed by current money systems
What about them? They can do whatever they want, I'm not trying to stop cryptocurrency enthusiasts from doing their thing, it doesn't mean I have to agree that its useful.
> Paypal banned a company
Paypal is a private company... what's your point? Coinbase bans people all the time for arbitrary use of their coins. Based on your logic here that means cryptocurrency is failure.
> marijuana shop
Marijuana is federally illegal. Using cryptocurrency doesn't solve any problems that cash doesn't already solve just fine. Cryptocurrency has literally zero advantages for these businesses.
> that one day they may become more useful
Yeah... when that actually happens you won't hear any arguments from me.
> You don't need to be involved, you don't even need to like it, but don't make up straw men and act like nobody out there wants some of the benefits of it because you personally don't.
Talk about a straw man. I never said "nobody out there wants some of the benefits" of cryptocurrency, I said THE VAST MAJORITY of people don't want it, which is absolutely true and something you've already understood based on your response, so I am not sure why you have decided to pull up a starwman argument even though you already responded to my actual argument regarding the "1% who are being failed by current money systems".
> I didn't want to get into fucking arguments about cryptocurrencies today, especially with someone who just decides that the problems it's solving for some are "fake problems" and handwaves them away, so this is the last time i'll reply here.
This is a silly rhetorical trick. You drop a gigantic wall of text and then sign it with a complaint that you don't want to get in an argument and use that as an excuse to avoid responding to criticism. I didn't do any handwaving, I gave detailed specific responses explaining my position, but if regarding my argument as "handwaving" makes it easier for you to ignore it, by all means.
A frozen credit card is not a frozen bank account. Your money is still available in the bank. You can try to paint fraud protection as a negative but the vast majority of consumers disagree with you. Not a real issue.
> No, because you never have to give out your private key, but you do have to give out and protect your credit card number
You're moving the goalposts. Giving out a credit card does not require a user to be vigilant about security, they simply leverage the number when they need to make a purchase, no back ups or additional work required.
> It's clear you've made up your mind, I don't even know why I'm typing this out, you aren't going to change your feelings.
Not an argument. It's clear you've made up your mind, I don't even know why I'm typing this out blah blah blah. See how pointless that is?
> I'm asking you to let some of us make different choices
Nobody needs my permission to do anything. I can assert that cryptocurrencies are useless and you can ignore me if you like.
> What about the 1% who are being failed by current money systems
What about them? They can do whatever they want, I'm not trying to stop cryptocurrency enthusiasts from doing their thing, it doesn't mean I have to agree that its useful.
> Paypal banned a company
Paypal is a private company... what's your point? Coinbase bans people all the time for arbitrary use of their coins. Based on your logic here that means cryptocurrency is failure.
> marijuana shop
Marijuana is federally illegal. Using cryptocurrency doesn't solve any problems that cash doesn't already solve just fine. Cryptocurrency has literally zero advantages for these businesses.
> that one day they may become more useful
Yeah... when that actually happens you won't hear any arguments from me.
> You don't need to be involved, you don't even need to like it, but don't make up straw men and act like nobody out there wants some of the benefits of it because you personally don't.
Talk about a straw man. I never said "nobody out there wants some of the benefits" of cryptocurrency, I said THE VAST MAJORITY of people don't want it, which is absolutely true and something you've already understood based on your response, so I am not sure why you have decided to pull up a starwman argument even though you already responded to my actual argument regarding the "1% who are being failed by current money systems".
> I didn't want to get into fucking arguments about cryptocurrencies today, especially with someone who just decides that the problems it's solving for some are "fake problems" and handwaves them away, so this is the last time i'll reply here.
This is a silly rhetorical trick. You drop a gigantic wall of text and then sign it with a complaint that you don't want to get in an argument and use that as an excuse to avoid responding to criticism. I didn't do any handwaving, I gave detailed specific responses explaining my position, but if regarding my argument as "handwaving" makes it easier for you to ignore it, by all means.