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> Why do all messengers keep requiring phone numbers?

Matrix/Riot.im and Wire doesn't. I think they're both good alternatives.



Riot.im is a damn pain to set up. I've been using computers for a quarter of a decade and I still get flummoxed by the UX.

Bridging Matrix/Riot to IRC/Telegram/Whatever seems to require some black magick beyond my capabilities.

On the other hand, even my grandmother can (and has) set up Telegram and WhatsApp.


> I've been using computers for a quarter of a decade

OT but I suppose you mean century?


Have you had a look lately? Plenty has happened in the last year (not only on the UX front)!

https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9400-matrix_the_current_status_a...

http://riot.im/experimental


Wire only if you register first on a computer. from the phone if you create an account you have to use your number.


They seem to have changed this now, you can register with an email address from mobile. It still asks for a phone number, but you can say no.


That has probably changed recently indeed.




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