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What Isaac Asimov Taught Us About Predicting the Future (nytimes.com)
91 points by tomerbd on Jan 2, 2019 | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments



Relatedly, here's what Asimov predicted for 2019: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/12/27/35-years-ago-i...


Thanks. That was really good.

I just wish the following was true.

>> The consequences of human irresponsibility in terms of waste and pollution will become more apparent and unbearable with time and again, attempts to deal with this will become more strenuous. It is to be hoped that by 2019, advances in technology will place tools in our hands that will help accelerate the process whereby the deterioration of the environment will be reversed.


Well he's right about the first party. As for the tools... people need to vote.. in the US at least.


Problems are easy to predict.

The technological solutions to those problems are predictable by a sufficiently educated person.

Politics is impossible to predict. Even if you're dead on about how a group of people feel in one region, go 200 miles west, you may be completely wrong.


There is some hope at this point that he's right about the second part, too. It reads as mixed hope as quoted and that's about what we are seeing.

- Advances in wind and solar energy generation in 2018 have pushed those to being the cheapest and most efficient they've ever been. The economic case for wind/solar is now such that it is far cheaper than non-renewable alternatives, and with or without political drive in 2019 there's a chance that pure capitalist greed still pushes past some major thresholds in renewable energy portfolios versus the alternatives.

- Similarly, 2018 seems to have pushed us past several remaining electric vehicle adoption hurdles and promises that we'll really start to feel the affects of that in 2019 and 2020. (VW's electric fleet roll out / course correction due to the dieselgate fallout will particularly be something to watch this year.) Admittedly, without political drivers we're still likely to see an aging ICE long tail, but again this is mixed hope that we have the technology, now we just need to find the will. Here too there is mixed hope economically that costs and supply chains are going to be driven down on EVs enough (maybe not this year, but soon; again my eye is on what will happen with VW's fleet changes as headwind, and also the huge electric fleet leaps happening in China) that we may see some very interesting cases where EVs start to be drastically cheaper than ICE vehicles. The conditions are ripe for some interesting supply chain shakeups in cars over the next few years, possibly to the planet's benefit.

- 2018 saw some really interesting technical developments in meat substitutes (Impossible Foods in particular doing some really interesting stuff). I have no idea if there is political or economic hope that we'll see more adoption of such things in 2019 as a matter of course, but I do know that White Castle sells Impossible Sliders and that seems like a hopeful sign.

- News recently about "sponges" that can capture atmospheric Carbon without impacting atmospheric Nitrogen may mean we are closer to technology breakthroughs in carbon capture than we think. [1]

As only a hobbyist/armchair future historian, I can see room at least for mixed hope. I suppose mixed hope is better than nothing here.

[1] https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/01/corkscrew-sponge-suc...


It's interesting that in 1983 global warming was not on Asimov's radar. He mentioned overpopulation and pollution, but nothing about CO2.


This is a better article IMO. Thanks for posting.


The article has basically nothing to do with the title. It is a recap of the plot of the foundation series and an extended analogy about how trump is the same as the Mule



The NYT has form for it recently, they’ve rehashed some of Laura Loomer’s old work for example.


It's disappointing to start reading a potentially interesting article about Asimov only to find out halfway through it's being used as another anti-Trump piece instead of concluding with anything insightful.


Yeah, apparently the Russians gave Trump superpowers like the Mule now.


The NYT article also managed, predictably, to align Trump with Hitler.

Will media never learn, or is this also part of the patterns we should expect to see from psychohistory?


If you’re interested in predicting the future read Philip Tetlock’s Superforecasting. In general people don’t make precise predictions to be right or wrong.

Review

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/10/superforecastin.htm...

https://www.econlib.org/archives/2015/10/outside_first.html

Superforecasting on Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0771070527/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_b...

Tetlock’s Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_E._Tetlock

Econtalk interview podcast with Tetlock

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/econtalk/id135066958


But before reading "Superforecasting", read Jackal's two-star review on Amazon. I agree with that well-written review, which also recommends other things to read.


This is not the first time I get very good recommendations from Jackal. Who is he?


Asimov is definitely a favourite and the use of fiction to explore otherwise polical/philosophical ideas is something I wish we had more of.

That said, seeing the world as predictable cycles is... a strong theme in modern history/political philosophy & not unique to him. That's (imo) what makes the psychohistory great. It's a fictionalised form of an idea that appears everywhere humans try to think of a big picture. Destiny.. fate.

Marx was explicitly deterministic in his historical materialism theory, his core idea, and possibly the thing Asimov was parodying in psychohistory. Economics as a whole could be thing Asimov was parodying. The like of to set Malthus, Ricardo and even Keynes played this game. Modern economists (notably thomas picketty) predict cycles, their inevitable consequences and 2nd order effects.

New/neo liberalism in the 80s & 90s had a strong, economics-oriented idea that the world would inevitably move towards liberal democracy and it's economic institutions. Gibbon's "Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire" has strong deterministic themes: success, decadence, collapse, renewal.

Yuval Noah Harare's "Sapiens" has its driving theme of human history (a march towards more & better cooperation). The history leads directly into futurism & prediction in the sequel... also deterministic themes.

Destiny has been a favourite theme in our stories since our first stories.


If you're not familiar with it, you should check out generational archetypes. It's the cyclical nature of generations, not empires. Anecdotally, it seems fairly accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generatio...




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