> - They're now, or soon will be, the largest supporter of free infrastructure for open source projects on the planet (GitHub)
They bought GitHub, a profitable proprietary product, that also hosts open source code as a marketing project.
By that logic you could say that MS supports open source because some other people develop OSS on Windows. (And MS has tried to do this!)
> - They've open sourced a massive chunk of their (IMHO) best-in-class language runtimes and language implementations (C#, F#, VB.net) and design and develop new features in the open
Is .NET Framework (the real thing, not the vapourware rewrite) open? Didn't think so.
> - They've contributed more than 1700 changes to the Linux kernel that can easily be identified with a quick 'git log --grep'
And how many of those are just about Hyper-V/Azure? When is Windows going to support Ext4 and KVM VirtIO?
> - They're the first company to make a real attempt at an industrial strength alternative implementation of the Linux kernel. Linux was supposed to be about choice, remember?
So that they can execute another round of EEE. No thanks.
Then again, I guess we're fairly safe from that this time, since they haven't even managed to get SQLite to run properly.
> - They've open sourced the core chunks of the evaluation engine used in Bing (BitFunnel)
From the top of their README: "It doesn't work (yet)."
> - They're a platinum member of the Linux Foundation. In other words, they pay Torvalds salary
So when are they going to start acting like it?
> - They support Linux as a first class OS on Azure and make it cheaper than Windows
Just like all the other cloud providers? Meh.
> - They have one of the largest and most active GitHub organizations
How many of those projects are useful outside of Azure/Windows?
> - They've joined OIN and, ignoring the actual patents involved, have thus in the process made an implicit promise never to attack any core part of the Linux infrastructure in the future
>How many of those projects are useful outside of Azure/Windows?
VSCode alone is one of it not the most active projects on github (depending on the metric), and is a general purpose code editor equally stable on Windows/Linux/Mac. Yes, they have plugins you can install for Azure/VSTS/etc, but you can also install plugins for BitBucket, GitHub, AWS, GCE, or ~whatever you want. It's pretty generically useful. I think.
I read this list as, 'Yea, they're helping OSS.. but they make a profit also!' OSS does not mean you can't make a profit.
I read it as they are acting like they support OSS because lots of people like OSS. And its kind of sad IMO that their biggest open source product is a text editor (a good one, but still a text editor). Let me know when they make word and excel open source and then we might be able to have a conversation about them supporting open source. Right now they are supporting the tools people want to use on their hosting platform because most people dont want windows in the cloud (except to handle current enterprise systems that are slowly being migrated to other platforms).
.net core is not vaporware. It's out and just shipped 2.1. The non-core one is not open source as it is very tied to Windows and they want the future effort to be the cross platform .net core.
They bought GitHub, a profitable proprietary product, that also hosts open source code as a marketing project.
By that logic you could say that MS supports open source because some other people develop OSS on Windows. (And MS has tried to do this!)
> - They've open sourced a massive chunk of their (IMHO) best-in-class language runtimes and language implementations (C#, F#, VB.net) and design and develop new features in the open
Is .NET Framework (the real thing, not the vapourware rewrite) open? Didn't think so.
> - They've contributed more than 1700 changes to the Linux kernel that can easily be identified with a quick 'git log --grep'
And how many of those are just about Hyper-V/Azure? When is Windows going to support Ext4 and KVM VirtIO?
> - They're the first company to make a real attempt at an industrial strength alternative implementation of the Linux kernel. Linux was supposed to be about choice, remember?
So that they can execute another round of EEE. No thanks.
Then again, I guess we're fairly safe from that this time, since they haven't even managed to get SQLite to run properly.
> - They've open sourced the core chunks of the evaluation engine used in Bing (BitFunnel)
From the top of their README: "It doesn't work (yet)."
> - They're a platinum member of the Linux Foundation. In other words, they pay Torvalds salary
So when are they going to start acting like it?
> - They support Linux as a first class OS on Azure and make it cheaper than Windows
Just like all the other cloud providers? Meh.
> - They have one of the largest and most active GitHub organizations
How many of those projects are useful outside of Azure/Windows?
> - They've joined OIN and, ignoring the actual patents involved, have thus in the process made an implicit promise never to attack any core part of the Linux infrastructure in the future
Too little, too late.