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20 hours mandatory service hosing shit off the sidewalks would be a better deterrent anyway.


I'm all for rapid unpleasant but not cruel consequences.

The biggest thing seems to be preventing those administering the consequences from indulging in sadism, or exploiting those who they administer.

If the consequence for minor property damage(think public defecation, minor vandalism etc) a 2-4 hour shift cleaning the streets, potentially connects people with the consequences of their actions without becoming cruel




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