"Mixed with that and the liberal social welfare system in Europe and PC culture which claimed any critical voice was facist, racist etc. That's why the antiestablishment came about not because of 2008 and wallstreet."
Oh come on, this is ridiculous.
Pointing out fascism and racism doesn't turn people fascist or racist. If you think there aren't some problems with racism and fascists I don't know what to tell you, because there is lots of evidence.
>> Pointing out fascism and racism doesn't turn people fascist or racist.
First of all you're slightly modifying OP's comment. He was not talking about actual fascism or racism that was pointed out, but about the abuse of those terms to silence critics regardless if they were racists or not.
If this kind of qualification is used purely a means to silence critics and it is used repeatedly without proper justification then yes, it can actually turn some people who used to have more moderate views into actual racists or fascists.
The comment from mercurysmessage is even a good example of shame being used to silence dissent, which is ironic considering that the conversation was about shame being used to silence dissent.
mercurysmessage shamed you, by implicitly calling you a racist, for being of the opinion that people who were not racist were shamed by being called racist.
"First of all you're slightly modifying OP's comment. He was not talking about actual fascism or racism that was pointed out, but about the abuse of those terms to silence critics regardless if they were racists or not."
Most of the time they are what they are being called.
Ha, again, calling someone racist doesn't turn them racist, makes absolutely zero sense.
You are missing my point or I am not explaining it very well.
The point is that that this is what I think, but rather this is what the people who join the antiestablishment think.
The article claims that 2008 is the reason and that couldn't be further from the truth since we financially are even better off today than right before 2008.
The people who joined occupy Wallstreet aren't the people who vote for those political parties.
It has nothing to do with whether there is racism or not that's a completely different discussion. We are talking politics which means we are talking perception here not some "true" interpretation of reality (which neither of us have)
in today's culture, this term is used so broadly it has become meaningless. Can you point out some fascist behavior in the news?
more inane is the related accusation "literal Nazi"....ugh, no unless you were a member of the Nazi Party of Germany between 1933 and 1945, you are not a "literal Nazi"
By recognizing euphemisms/dog whistles, and rhetoric used by fascists.
"in today's culture, this term is used so broadly it has become meaningless."
It's not, as has been pointed out in the article, and by commenters here, there is a rise in far right political groups.
"Can you point out some fascist behavior in the news?"
Sure, news figures such as Tucker Carlson use white nationalist talking points, for one. The president calling human subhuman is troubling, and attacking the free press is also not a good sign.
"more inane is the related accusation "literal Nazi"....ugh, no unless you were a member of the Nazi Party of Germany between 1933 and 1945, you are not a "literal Nazi""
This is a very bad take, and is used by neo-nazis to protect their views. The term is neo-nazi for a reason.
Oh come on, this is ridiculous.
Pointing out fascism and racism doesn't turn people fascist or racist. If you think there aren't some problems with racism and fascists I don't know what to tell you, because there is lots of evidence.