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>I'll often give a few toots before approaching an intersection to increase the chance that I am seen. And it has probably saved me from some major crashes when I lay down the horn on someone.

When are you doing this? When you go through a green light?

Or is this when there's a chance for cross-traffic, say going through a yellow or red light?

The only reason I ask is because whenever I'm in SF, at least half the bicyclists I see, if not more, run all the lights and stop signs.




A green light is one possibility, as are people pulling out into the street without looking. See this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17910799

I never run red lights or stop signs, and don't appreciate being associated with bad cyclists any more than you would probably appreciate being associated with bad drivers.


>don't appreciate being associated with bad cyclists any more than you would probably appreciate being associated with bad drivers.

Sorry you got that impression, but I was simply asking. Nothing wrong with getting more context, is there?


> Nothing wrong with getting more context, is there?

In principle, no. But you didn't need to add the part about cyclists breaking the law. Many if not most cyclists would find that offensive.

Over the years I've heard many drivers suggest that the reason I don't get respect on the road is that I probably break the law. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be suggesting that I might be using my air horn so frequently because I run red lights and stop signs and want to stop traffic that has the right of way. When stated that way, the suggestion seems ridiculous. If a driver said that they needed to use their horn frequently, I wouldn't suggest that they might be road raging at everyone or something similar, even if I thought that were likely or true. I'd just ask for context without any assumptions.




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