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And what would you suggest as alternative, given that normal users (e.g. people who've never even heard of HN and make up the majority of browser users) expect to search with Google?

As far as I recall, the Google search is part of the funding agreement (because Mozilla is still a non-profit, the money has to come from _somewhere_ and we, the users of the browser, sure aren't paying them?) with the explicit agreement that it is trivial to change the default search engine for people who don't want to search with Google.

Click on the drop-down on the left of the search field in the browser, you click "change search settings", you pick your preferred search (options for which include "duck duck go" these days) and you're done forever. That... feels like a perfectly fine way to go about offering people what they want: make what the majority wants the default, and make it trivial to change for people with different wants or needs.




> And what would you suggest as alternative

https://duckduckgo.com/ -- The search engine that doesn't track you.

> make what the majority wants the default

No. That amounts to choosing the default for the majority and diverting majority to a particular search engine.


What about no default ? Just Prompt user after installation which search engine they want to set as default.

HN users will switch to something they prefer, normal users wouldn't know there exists anything other than google. By making what you think majority wants as default, you are forcing something on people who doesn't know any better.


Google pays Mozilla a bunch of money to be the default search engine, and Mozilla needs the money as they are a non-profit.

If somebody cares about their online privacy, they can change the default search engine very easily - I think what we should be doing is teaching the average web browser what kind of tracking goes on so that more people are willing to switch to things like Firefox/DDG.


So Mozilla should clearly state that being a non-profit they need funds and that they are willing to compromise the privacy of their users.


No need to lie just to make a point. Firefox does not "compromise the privacy of their users" by using google.com as default search engine. You're going to have write quite the detailed explanation if you want to make that case and make a credible claim at the same time.




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