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I don't think that's true. If you are using bash or chef to interact with the cloud then k8s can replace those with a much cleaner model.

My biggest fear is helm becomes chef cookbooks



Can you elaborate on the concerns with helm?


It’s probably referring to people using Chef cookbooks blindly without any knowledge of how to configure or maintain the service itself.

I have interacted with people who run production workloads via Helm but struggle to do very basic things with kubectl (like recreating a service).

This is an argument that can be used for any high level abstraction, however. I guess Chef is used since they have very good testing tools so Cookbooks are relatively more stable than other CM definitions. Until things go wrong with the service that is.


That community sourced cookbooks are security nightmares or under maintained. I cannot see how helm charts can stay quality without a curated app store.


Thanks for the clarification. The official Helm charts go through a thorough community review process. We (Bitnami) are committed to making high-quality, up-to-date Helm charts. You can check https://hub.kubeapps.com


I would be so happy if you pulled it off


Any unmaintained infrastructure as code piece will quit working.

Success I have had with chef has been generating my own cookbooks that dont try to do everything for every OS


Yes exactly. Everything tends towards rolling your own.




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