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Seems like you have the cart before the horse. Universal health care would be a way to address those inefficiencies and solve those financial and administrative problems.



That very well may be, but I have not seen any research suggesting this.


Does the healthcare marketplace of every civilized country of the world outside of the United States not count as research or an experiment in real life consequences?


No, I don't think these alternate examples are relevant. I suspect, and this is not my field of expertise, the largest differentiator is history. The US has been developing its health care system, uninterrupted, longer than other nations.

It is much easier, politically, to build a great system if you start from scratch and have excellent examples at hand of what not to do as compared to modifying a deeply entrenched system in current operation.


> The US has been developing its health care system, uninterrupted, longer than other nations.

The NHS is 70 years old, and it partly exists because Welsh coal miners set up cooperative insurance schemes. These worker's medical aid societies started in the early 19th century.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/welsh-history-...


>The US has been developing its health care system, uninterrupted, longer than other nations.

Can you describe this vis-a-vis England or France? I am confused as to how you think the US has been at healthcare longer or how an interruption occurs.


France was conquered roughly 70 years ago. England was not conquered, but I suspect WW2 had a near significant impact upon domestic government operation. According to Wikipedia the US health system has roots that go back much further without noticeable disruption: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United...


What about, say, Sweden, Ireland, Portugal, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand?


I have no idea.


Other countries’ socialized systems didn’t just pop into existence fully formed. I’m pretty sure the health care industry in other countries is about as old as ours.


That's true but have an example in the US, universal healthcare is provided by the US government, if you are over 65, it's called Medicare for people who have paid into the system while under 65 and a few others. People over 65 are free to buy insurance and pay for their own healthcare, thanks to ACA.


"The US has been developing its health care system, uninterrupted, longer than other nations." I don't understand this. How do you define Health care system? because we have care institutions that predates the foundation of the USA.




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