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Maybe if you're smart enough to do that, you're smart enough to care about your health in other ways and thus you should still fit into the price model that the insurance company uses ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



I'm not sure what leads you to believe that smart people are particularly healthy.


I’m on Medicare in Australia (so universal healthcare mostly funded by 2% of all taxable income that came in real handy for me last year) and I have an incentive to walk 10,000 steps every morning. A coffee with artificial sweetener from 7 Eleven will do it. And I aim to listen to good podcasts or the like while I do.

I wouldn’t do it otherwise. Even the flimsiest of pretenses will do it.


You are in aussie and drink 7/11 coffee by choice? Turn in your Australia card mate...


Not everyone in Australia lives in Melbourne :) (just the best coffee drinkers)


Bingo, plus it’s the only place open other than Maccas at the time of day at a near enough perfect 10,000 step distance along an indirect route.

Doing it this way also takes care of the cheating concern, it’s a reward I can only get by physically doing the work.

Plus, it gives me a quiet time to watch everything including the Star Trek back catalogue.

And I don’t live in Melbourne so honestly brown water with a gram of sweet is a synonym for coffee.


Smart people ≠ healthy people


There's a strong correlation between IQ and life expectancy, possibly mostly genetic


Twin studies have tended to indicate that IQ is quite dependent on socio-economic status (thereby raising the question of what IQ is actually _measuring_, but anyway...). Socio-economic status is also highly relevant to life expectancy.


My understanding was twin studies typically show a .70 or so genetic component. What studies are you looking at?


I mean, even base on .70 genetic (which is on the high end, I think), .30 is still a good bit...


My guess is it is childhood. I see poor people eating junk food all the time and feed that to their kids - the kids are fat on empty calories and so the brain doesn't get what it needs to grow smart.

That is just a guess though. I don't have the ability to verify it.


There are plenty of fat smart people. The brain does not develop, and especially does not develop knowledge, as a result of the passage of time and metabolic processes. It develops, both structurally and in terms of 'contents', solely as a response to repeated stimulus. We don't really have a word for a situation where a persons life is impoverished due to lack of intellectual stimulus, but we certainly have the condition. Some kids grow up in homes where if they ask a question, they'll get an answer. Others grow up in homes where an asked question is replied to by the parent dismissively saying 'I don't know' (sending a clear message that the child shouldn't want to know) as they turn back to reading about celebrity gossip. No amount of clean eating can overcome that sort of poverty. Internet access can, though.


That being said, insulin resistance / T2DM is associated with the thinning of cortical tissue [0] - insulin resistance being the typical cause of burgeoning fat storage. Additionally, the brain runs well on ketones [1], which are an abundant supply of fuel on the insulin-resistance-reversing ketogenic diet.

All I'm saying is there may be some benefit for the many fat smart people in taking up some kind of insulin-resistance-reversing diet; lo, for all the fat people (, as well as the thin-yet-still-insulin resistant people, too). But ketosis is not exactly the default path-of-least-resistance for most people, given the standard american diet, conventional nutritional 'wisdom', etc.

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25439756

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15877199


There are people who eat enough healthy food to get the needed nutrition, along with the junk food.

Be honest here: we are both speculating about that which we don't know, and it is hard to study.


It's also likely the other direction, with health growing up resulting in higher IQ.


IQ historically has had a strong correlation with social status and affluence, which also implies access to healthcare, ability to eat a balanced diet or go to the gym, etc.


For insurance purposes if you can learn someone's IQ without learning their health status you still get evidence about their future health


Sure, assuming that their price model is fair and just.

Besides, who says the users of this are smart? They're just at a bar that offers that service.




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