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> Do any other autopilot systems from legacy automakers improve with over the air software updates?

Who cares? I'm not buying a luxury vehicle on promises of what it might do given enough time.




To each their own of course. I'd have no qualms about buying my Model S again.

I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year, or that must wait years for a software upgrade. Then again, I'm happy with my iPhone, bugs and all; it'll get updates too, and works just fine between iOS updates.


> I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year

You know I used to think this way, then all my computing devices started changing often for the worse with every update.

For me a stable device that doesn't change month-to-month is a feature, not a disadvantage. Give me the LTS branch of the car world.


I can appreciate that perspective. I want to live at the bleeding edge, and don't mind the inconveniences or regressions. I can't take my money with me when I die, so after savings and basic needs are met, I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!).

I can't get that sort of experience from stodgy, risk adverse legacy enterprises. I want to support enterprises that want to succeed or die.

EDIT: Edit after your edit, keep the LTS builds, give me nightly! Tests pass? Ship it!


Please don't beta test your products on the same roads I'm using with my stable branch ;)


> Tests pass? Ship it!

If there are bugs, more tests! And always, always, always degrade gracefully.


> I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!)

Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'.

I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us.

Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.


This is the kind of self-centered, callous mindset that runs over innocent pedestrians.

It’s a car, not a web site. People other than the drivers’ lives are at risk when you drive on public roads.


I’m the one who is responsible for the vehicle at all times, not an Uber safety driver who isn’t paying attention, and I take that responsibility seriously.


Can you be isolated to a testing serv^H^H^H^H roads?


Maybe you just don’t want the pain of feeling like you wasted 100k.


I only spent a bit more than half that on a CPO Model S, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If you have the means, I highly recommend it. By far, my favorite car having owned several Corvettes, an SLK 350, a luxury pickup truck, and a Subaru STI.




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