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> Maybe they decided preparing CSR is too hard for their clients :/

It seems that a lot of businesses and people feel that making things "easier and more convenient" takes priority over best security practices. For example, we can't support client side TLS cert authentication (in addition to a username and password) because customers won't be able to generate the CSR or know how to import the certificate into their client. Instead, let's use SMS or email based two factor authentication.




And they're probably not wrong. In other words, I suspect that if there were two identical competing services, the convenient one would win. If one only supported client certs, and one only supported 2FA, I have a (unsupported) feeling that the client cert company would not survive long.


Yep. The problem is that most customers cannot judge the level of security offered by a company. So Company "A" says they are "secure," but has a cumbersome process to follow to get a certificate. Company "B" says they are "secure" and has a convenient process. Guess which one gets the business (all else being equal).

In reality Company "B" may well be much less secure then "A", but the customer has no way of knowing that or making a judgement on which company is more secure.


On the other hand, a customer who doesn't realize that their private key should never leave their premises has no business asking for a certificate. It's like not selling guns to children.


While that may be true, that doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't have the option of using certificate based authentication.


We have the option of using certificates, but not the option of giving away private keys.


Could a company offer both options? That is, a customer could choose whether to use a client certificate or SMS message/email based 2FA.




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