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The article is missing the real step one: Education.

From "China’s rise as a major contributor to science and technology"[0]:

"China is now the world’s distant leader in bachelor’s degrees in Science and Engineering, with 1.1 million in 2010, more than four times the US figure. This large disparity reflects not only China’s dramatic expansion in higher education since 1999 but also a much higher percentage of students majoring in S/E in China, around 44% in 2010, compared with 16% in the United States."

[0] http://www.pnas.org/content/111/26/9437




Many of those CS degrees outside of first and second tier universities are not very good, however. When every foreign language unverisity and teacher’s college (there called normal universities) has a CS department, there is definitely something going on.


> Many of those CS degrees outside of first and second tier universities are not very good, however.

Sure, but even if half the total degrees are substandard that's still twice the output of the United States. It's a wave that will only pay more dividends over time.

> When every foreign language unverisity and teacher’s college (there called normal universities) has a CS department, there is definitely something going on.

The same could be said for every liberal arts college in the United States which suddenly has a brand new science/math/CS center plopped onto campus.

Anyway, I'd recommend giving the study a read. The authors discuss these issues as well as a few others. Problems aside, there's a clear trend developing.


Even the Chinese government admits quality is a problem, I’ll see if I can pull up a CD or GT article I read a few years ago. The CS programs in lower tiered schools are not given many resources, they are often taught programming by teachers who have never programmed before (similar to being taught English by the book by an instructor who can’t speak english, my mother in law did this). It’s not the same as Hoboken liberal arts college teaching CS, it’s more like Scottsdale cooking academy teaching CS (or at least Zhangjiajie Tourism College).

When I was working in china, everyone was complaining about finding programmers that were good enough to hire. You would filter your resume stacks by 1st then 2nd tier universities (throw everything else out), and still had to be very rigorous in interviewing. This was way after the CS education boom happened in the early part of this decade.




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