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Why aren't companies pressuring Intel to remove or disable the ME? It seems like a huge security risk for entire organizations. It's especially difficult to fix when running Linux, and many organizations/servers use Linux.


I ask myself that question every time I read something about ME.

Possible answers, in ascending order of paranoia, are:

    * A lot of people just don't care. "It's not gonna happen to me"
    * Some customers like the remote management capabilities without having to spend money on licenses for vendor-specific remote management systems such as HP iLO. If you have to manage hundreds or thousands of machines, it can make your life a lot easier.
    * The NSA tells Intel (and AMD) to put it in there or else.
I assume some customers talk to Intel about this. I vaguely recall reading that the NSA gets servers with ME disabled. So "They" are most certainly aware of the risks.

FWIW, a while ago someone posted a video of a talk on HN given by a Google employee who talked about replacing stuff like UEFI firmware in their servers with their own code. If that person keeps going down that road, it's just a matter of time before he runs into the Management Engine.

I really hope that this issue generates enough pressure on Intel/AMD to provide a way to disable or replace their proprietary ultra-privileged code. But it is not easy to explain this to people without sounding like a paranoiac.


>The NSA tells Intel (and AMD) to put it in there or else.

Exactly. And this is where mass surveillance comes in to play: having dirt on anyone and being able to use it as leverage.

ie. Intel is forced to put it in there or the NSA will 'leak' how they <insert illegal business practice Intel engaged in that will put them out of business if published.>


- Purism petitioned Intel to open source it, or make it optional, and sell machines with it as disabled as possible

- Dell sell machines with it disabled

- System76 sell machine with it disbaled

- Google have been working to try and neuter it


Those sound like good first steps, but everyone needs a way to disable it (using any operating system, including Linux).


> Dell sell machines with it disabled

Which ones?


It’s no longer available.


IIRC, Google has been flashing the code portion of the ME (rendering it useless)


The Pixelbook and other Chromebooks don't have an active ME?


There were investigating flashing the ME for their compute cloud processors [0] to avoid the possibility of an ME vulnerability being exploited, which would greatly harm their reputation.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iffTJ1vPCSo




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