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I hope it picks up momentum among the broader public - while it can feel like the entirity of HN is on Firefox Nightly, there's a much larger leap to be made in overturning the broadly held 'common sense' view that Chrome is the superior browser.

I don't doubt that such a sea change in public consensus is possible - it happened several years ago with the surge of Chrome in about 2010 [1]. Chrome was markedly quicker than the competition in its day, but I believe that Firefox 57 makes at least as big a performance leap in day-to-day usage over its rivals as Chrome did when it came to prominence. For much of the last ten years, Chrome has been the go-to browser for the tech-saavy user - Firefox is now as well placed as it could ever be to reclaim that crown.

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Browser_usage_share,...




I guess I was one of the Firefox holdouts for years now. After Chrome came out and the adblocker on it was more than useless (I used it since day 1 of public release) I ditched it for Firefox and never looked back. I only kept Chrome for web development to test across different browsers, or to open a new "session" in another browser. Now that Firefox has containers I really don't care for Chrome in that respect though. I'm glad Mozilla is doing things to put themselves back on the spotlight, they've done some great work over the years.


I thought I was the only person who never stopped using Firefox.


I primarily use Chrome just for the reason that it has better UI than Firefox on Linux. The developer tools on Firefox is too ugly, they definitely need a more compact design.


Firefox 57 has a new UI ("Photon") that you might like, and the DevTools are seeing significant UI/UX work during their rewrite from XUL to HTML (https://github.com/devtools-html/).

You can see some mockups on Victoria Wang's Twitter: https://twitter.com/violasong/status/926189788486557697


Anyone got a rough ETA for when the CSD stuff will make it into main? (or any other hack to hide title bar in MATE/xfce once hidecaptiontitelbarplus addon breaks? sorry to beat dead-horse topic)

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/firefox-client-side-decor...


Looks like it's going to be available in Firefox 58 behind a pref: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1415481


Already in Firefox 57 on Fedora 27


Tried installing the nightly CSD build from flatpak and made sure flags were on in about:config. Still a title bar in Ubuntu MATE 16.04 :/


I actually much prefer the 57 UI options. I use the dark theme and it conserves more space than the tabs with chrome.

The icon indicators also are really nice. At this point the only reason I use Chrome is b/c of Google Meet (which doesn’t support Firefox).

The only thing I wish was better in the beta is battery life/usage. Safari is still king in terms of its effect on you battery.

Edit: to be clear I use Firefox beta on Linux and macOS regularly.


Really? I find chrome’s developer tools very ugly though, with bright and garish colors. Firefox’s is much nicer in my opinion. But the nicest-looking devtools is still Safari’s, even though it is also the slowest, buggiest, and had the least features.




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