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Same here. Started as junior (with 7 years programming experience from school) with a few other juniors at a company working on a new product without any senior developers anymore. It sure was a little rough sometimes and we sure made our fair share of errors and technical debt, but it was an amazing experience. And the product still works fine today.

So with a motivated team and some autodidactic learning you can still get very far! Especially since Google and Stackoverflow.com are at your disposal.




It didn't even occur to me that I could educate myself in that time.

I started doing it after I was 9 years in.


So you basically sat on your ass and said "somebody teach me"? No wonder that your colleagues from university got so much better.

I never got much help from other people. In the beginning, I didn't have anybody interested in computers around me at all, yet I managed to learn programming. Then, when I started studying IT and switched to Linux, and I didn't have anybody to systematically learn working with unix from. This happened when I didn't have an access to the internet, and we had very little learning material published (first half of '00 decade), so it wasn't even possible for me to ask a question on StackOverflow or something.

And then the pattern repeats a number of times.

It's not mentoring that helps people grow. It's learning. It can be done with a teacher/mentor (and in fact it's easier in a number of fields), but it doesn't require one. Don't blame others for your own idleness.


Point wasn't that I was lazy, point was that I had the impression after university I'm a dev and get a job and work.


That's a great admission, to admit that to yourself let alone in a pseudo-public environment shows growth and maturity so many tech people often lack


I want to be good in what I do, not just think I am good.

Many people can take enough from simply feeling better than everyone around them.

On the other hand I often feel bad about myself, which isn't good either.


Are you saying it took you 9 years of seeing other people know and learn things you weren't taught at the Uni before you realized you could look things up with Google?


No, I looked many things up and I learned, but it wasn't much and really unstructured.

I just came to work and did what had to be done. After years I learned that there is much more and I don't have to fear things that are outside of my comfort zone.


Then I still don't understand what's your point.


That's okay.




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