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I'm not sure how carefully Amazon has or has not been managing their appearances in Seattle, but I'd bet that Seattlites in general have a WORSE opinion of Amazon than the general average opinion across the USA. I've lived in Seattle for 10 years, and I see Amazon get blamed for all kinds of stuff, certainly including traffic.



I live in Seattle and almost never hear a good thing about Amazon's presence here (people like the service though). Multiple times a week people blame Amazon for the very high rents and home prices.

Amazon employees also have a bad reputation (not individually, but collectively) in my experience. To be fair, I think that has a lot to do with over-eager college interns.


> people blame Amazon for the very high rents and home prices

In a way, they are correct. In another way, well, no. Amazon needed employees, lots of them, and hired them. Suddenly, you have increased demand for housing. The city ought to, in response, see that this is happening and do what needs to be done to increase supply of housing. Allow more density, build up, build more and do it quickly.

Instead, it's chosen the typical west-coast attitude of blaming the people bringing the jobs and wealth to the city and preventing serious density increases anywhere they can. And the citizens, the same ones complaining about housing prices, are also against any increase in density.

The end result? Well, Amazon is opening offices left and right in every other city on the planet, and hiring elsewhere. Those jobs might have been in Seattle, bringing in more local taxes, but instead they are in places like Winnipeg, Manitoba. (Seriously, there's an office there, what the heck?).

(Bias: Amazon employee, once lived in Seattle and loved the city)


If you rent, you blame Amazon for high rents and home prices.

If you own, you pat yourself on the back for making a wise financial decision.

Funny how that works :)


Right, because Seattleites are the ones who have to actually deal with Amazon.

The efforts that the OP is talking about are meant to make Amazon appear better to the Seattleites of this universe than it would appear to the Seattleites of some alternate universe in which Amazon wasn't making the same efforts.

That's a wholly different goal than making Amazon appear better to Seattleites than it does to residents of other cities.


I'm not sure what efforts OP is referring to. I'm not aware of any. Either way, OP makes it sound like Amazon doesn't get blamed for all kinds of things (it does) and like people in Seattle don't think Amazon has entitled employees. I hear both complaints constantly.

I'm contending that Amazon has approximately the same reputation in Seattle that Google has in the Bay Area.


With same-day delivery and the place where they experiment with most of their new ideas, we see Amazon as a utility here


Having grown up in the area I remember the days when the finger was pointed at Boeing for the cause of traffic. Someone has to be the scapegoat :)


It's California. It's always California. It was California in the 80s and 90s, it's California today. Always somebody else's fault.

And yes, I'm just bitter because nobody bothered to thank me for moving TO California :)


Its a reasonable guess, but my onservation is you are wrong. Seattleites are generally enjoying these boom times, where jobs are plentiful and even waiting tables pays $15/hr. People seem to quietly appreciate the Amazon effect, it isn't remarked upon often compared to other issues of the day.


Fascinating. That is NOT my experience. I hear people complain about Amazon and Amazon employees all the time.


$15 and hour waiting tables is not really good. I was making around $12 an hour waiting tables in Dayton Ohio back in 2001, and I wasn't tipped. If I had gone to a place with tips I would have made much more.


2001 was a long time ago in the US economic sense.

That was mostly before on-call employment for retail employees and the collapse of malls. It was a better time for most folks economically.




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