> at least not beyond their own avoidance of wrongdoing
Such as enforcing that people contracted to carry out work on their behalf do so in a manner that conforms to their ethical stands?
A fund policing the habits of an investment is literally the people who own the business policing the actions of their employees -- I think most of us agree that a business has the right to enforce ethical standards on employees.
> not the police or courts
Both of these institutions are primarily complaint driven -- the fund filed a complaint that people they employed violated the rules of their employment and is asking the courts to make it right. (Slight more convoluted, but that's the gist of it.)
> state is the plaintiff in criminal cases
That has nothing to do with indemnifying someone from the financial consequences of their actions -- a third party can offer to pay your penalties.
> seems to be benchmark asking that newly added board seats be removed
Are there no prior cases where board actions to create board seats were reverse because of fraud? I'm skeptical.
But more to the point -- so what? We have well established law that you can revisit agreements made on a fraudulent basis and they're asking the courts to mediate just such a dispute.
I'm actually unsure how you think any of this should work based on your objections, aside from that corporate managers shouldn't be liable, even to the corporate owners, for their actions.
> A fund policing the habits of an investment is literally the people who own the business policing the actions of their employees
this seems to be equivocating on "policing".
> That has nothing to do with indemnifying someone from the financial consequences of their actions
you stated "criminal actions". if kalanick committed a crime, it is the state that pursues this in court. afaik all that is occurring is that benchmark is pursuing a civil case.
> Are there no prior cases where board actions to create board seats were reverse because of fraud?
are you referring to criminal or civil wrongdoing?
> I'm actually unsure how you think any of this should work based on your objections
it just seemed to me that you were suggesting private entities pursue criminals and "fight crime", perhaps as some form of vigilantism. ...perhaps like batman?
> if kalanick committed a crime, it is the state that pursues this in court
That's actually not how it works -- there can be both civil and criminal proceedings for a case, and very often criminal proceedings follow a complaint by a victim. The criminal proceedings deals with punishments related to breaking the law; the civil proceedings deal with damages caused to people (or businesses) by the crimes.
Also, indemnification has nothing to do with prosecution versus civil suit -- it's an agreement to pay the damages and fines related to the person's actions.
> suggesting private entities pursue criminals and "fight crime", perhaps as some form of vigilantism
They absolutely should!
By filing complaints and suing for damages that result from the actions of criminals -- which is what the fund is doing here.
A criminal may still be liable for damages via civil suit even if there's a lack of prosecution or an acquittal. People can (and should!) make use of the courts to pursue criminals.
Such as enforcing that people contracted to carry out work on their behalf do so in a manner that conforms to their ethical stands?
A fund policing the habits of an investment is literally the people who own the business policing the actions of their employees -- I think most of us agree that a business has the right to enforce ethical standards on employees.
> not the police or courts
Both of these institutions are primarily complaint driven -- the fund filed a complaint that people they employed violated the rules of their employment and is asking the courts to make it right. (Slight more convoluted, but that's the gist of it.)
> state is the plaintiff in criminal cases
That has nothing to do with indemnifying someone from the financial consequences of their actions -- a third party can offer to pay your penalties.
> seems to be benchmark asking that newly added board seats be removed
Are there no prior cases where board actions to create board seats were reverse because of fraud? I'm skeptical.
But more to the point -- so what? We have well established law that you can revisit agreements made on a fraudulent basis and they're asking the courts to mediate just such a dispute.
I'm actually unsure how you think any of this should work based on your objections, aside from that corporate managers shouldn't be liable, even to the corporate owners, for their actions.