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Oh, the irony! Months before he was fired, in his talk [1] at QCon London 2017 (March 5-7), Josh Schwartz jokingly said: "I am going to tell some stories and hopefully I won't get fired for sharing this stuff but we'll see how it goes".

[1] How to Backdoor Invulnerable Code: https://youtu.be/EGshffkzZsY?t=680



I think that may be the opposite of irony. It's foretelling if he's not 100% sure what's been approved.

Speakers at large companies must get the entire content of their public presentations approved by PR and upper management well in advance. The process can take weeks even for completely innocuous information because accidental disclosure can have serious implications.

1. Disclosure of number of customers, number of transactions, number of anything can be reverse engineered by investors and competitors to derive forward looking information about the company's finances. Or worse, transactions related to specific customers so their financials could be reverse engineered. Good way to lose a client.

2. Disclosures of internal resources, urls, domains, architectures etc can be a treasure trove for competitors and malicious attackers.

Maybe it was a tongue in cheek joke because he was fully aware his content had been vetted 10 times over. Or maybe not and this is part of a pattern.


I think both you and OP are reading a bit too much into that phrase and it seems like both of you definitely did not listen to the talk.

In contrast I _did_ watch the linked video and can tell you that it was professional, did not expose any personal details of SF employees, any company secrets nor did it disparage the company or paint it in a negative light.

Don't believe me? Just watch the video.

Don't know OP's motivation in making his comment. He blames a misunderstanding of a colloquialism for the confusion, but to me it looks like an attempt to discredit the presenter.


Oh, the irony! You've just created a whopping conspiracy theory out of my comment.


Salesforce PR in the house!


That's a really old account to just have 10 karma...


Hey! I'm not doing much better and I'm very sensitive about it.


I'm in Australia, so I almost never see stories as they start rising. :D

And I may have locked my last account (i336_) a while back by setting "noprocrast" to a ridiculous value, which I TIL that day actually is not fixable. This is a new account. I'm debating whether to ask for my old account to be unlocked, or to start again.

FWIW, this account's first post went badly - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14909407 (downvoted to 0) - and I got bitten a couple days ago as well - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14975515 (down to -1), hmph.


I am sorry for my poor karma. I did not live up to your standards. My account is a failure.


You're not a failure though. Just to make that clear.


Forgive me for my poor English, - looks like I have misunderstood meaning of "Oh, the irony!" expression. I thought when someone says "oh the irony" they mean what they are saying it about wasn't expected and is kind of crazy to believe. I was wrong. I am sorry.


No, you're right. The statement is an exclamation of being overwhelmed by the irony of a situation, and irony itself is... slightly editing Wikipedia's definition for clarity, it's "an event in which what appears to be the case on the surface, differs radically from what is actually the case."

I find that irony indirectly relates to cynicism sometimes.

I think the "in the house" exclamation/reply was in agreement with what you were saying, and that it was directed at Salesforce.




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