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Between the Intel Core i9-7900X and AMD Ryzen 7 1800X there is a $540 price difference.

But for that extra cost you get four more threads at a higher clock rate, twenty extra PCIE lanes, a 500 MHz higher turbo clock speed, and double the memory bandwidth.

Even with the lesser Intel Core i7-7820X you will get the same thread count but with a higher clock rate, four extra PCIE lanes, still a 500 MHz higher turbo clock speed, and double the memory bandwidth for only $140 more.

Now, of course, the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X comes much closer to the i9-7900X price point.

However, you will sacrifice single core performance to gain twelve more threads at a lower clock rate. But, you will receive twenty more PCIE lanes, over twice as much L3 cache, and the same memory bandwidth as the i9-7900X.

So if your plan is to build a 3D render farm, the Threadripper seems quite appropriate.

Although, if you plan to build a workstation on which to model 3D assets and to perform preview renders--the Intel i9 series seems more apt.




Not to take away from your numbers, but you should consider the cost of the motherboard, too. The HEDT Intel motherboards tend to be more expensive than what the Ryzen ones are going for and much harder to find replacements for down the line. Microcenter seems to only sell one X299 and it's at $310. Depending on your desired feature set, you can get a Ryzen motherboard for < $100.


The MSI X299 RAIDER is the cheapest X299 board I can find at NewEgg and costs $219.99.

The GIGABYTE GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 is the cheapest Ryzen board I can find at NewEgg and costs only $94.99 by comparsion.

Therefore, there's an obvious savings of $124. Although, you can easily spend $189.99 or more on a higher-end Ryzen board given NewEgg's offerings.

So while there is a discrepancy, it's not massive.


Fair enough. I listed Micro Center because they routinely have the best deals on CPU prices and often have incredible CPU & motherboard combo prices. For a while you basically could get a Ryzen motherboard for free with the CPU and they took $50 off the MSRP of the CPU. I ultimately didn't go for it, but I was looking at an 1800X + motherboard for $500, which is $100 less than the i7-7820X alone.

But I agree that a $200 - $400 difference may not be substantial for a workstation in heavy use. Personally, I do still have concerns about availability over the life of the CPU. I currently have an X79 and was looking to replace the motherboard in its 2nd year of ownership. eBay is really the only option available and with a scarce 2nd-hand market, the boards don't depreciate much. It's gotten better over time, but I was looking at paying $400+ for a used motherboard. I decided to just deal with the quirks of my current one. The X299 is early in its lifecycle, of course, so I'd hope availability for a few years.


> ... they routinely have the best deals on CPU prices and often have incredible CPU & motherboard combo prices.

Agreed.

> The X299 is early in its lifecycle, of course, so I'd hope availability for a few years.

Same, here. I've seen ASRock Intel boards vanish from the market only a year after they debut.

It's disturbing. And moreover, it's detrimental to the lifetime of the board as driver and BIOS updates cease.

Hopefully this chipset and socket will last a bit longer.


Are there really that many people doing 3d model rendering?

My guess would be PC users by count are

gamers > programmers > 3d renderers

For most gamers, seems like i7 or maybe i9 wins in current benchmarks. For programmers maybe ryzen is a better fit, but I bet it depends on your language.


> but I bet it depends on your language.

Not as much as you would think, I have a ryzen 1700 I use for dev, mostly PHP (not a language that threads well) in an Enterprise environment.

Those extra cores/threads come in incredibly handy for virtualization, both dev environments and things like running windows for testing

Even VS2017 inside virtual box absolutely flies when given 16GB of RAM and 4 cores (8T).

For my day to day the cores are useful even if my primary language isn't using all of them.

I'm currently in the strange situation where my desktop running the main system in virtual box is faster than our production/spare servers.


If you're a gamer, then yes, the i7-7820X is precisely what you'd be considering in opposition to the 1800X.

I invoked the example of 3D rendering as it's the origin of most of these discussions among my co-workers.


You're forgetting the CGI industry, as seen in movies.


I am not forgetting it.

Google right now, tells me there are:

155 million "gamers" in the US

3.6 million programmers in the US

I cannot guess that the CGI industry is higher than either of these numbers.

Now very much they may pay for bleeding edge, and spend more dollars on hardware than programmers. But I am at least 95% confident there are less people in the US running a 3d program on their desktop compared to running eclipse/visual studio/atom/vim.


What about prosumer video editors?


Sure those exist.

1) How many are there?

2) it seems like you are usually not CPU bound. The people I know doing this spend 20 minutes waiting for a video to render than 6 hours uploading it to youtube. In most cases their bandwidth is a limiter 10x over their CPU. (Plus most of those people are on Mac anyway, so they don't even get this choice)


how does AR impact this need? will it by default make everyone a gamer with regards to hardware needs? that is if someone one can make a compelling case for it becoming widespread.


graphic designers are. my friend is moving off a mac and onto a pc just to do 3d rendering at home.




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