So finding co-founders is impossible? I think not. You can also listen to some other person's idea, recognize it as great and work on that idea.

I just thought that, all else being equal, people on both sides are equally stubborn about sticking to their own ideas. Do you find this not to be the case?

I didn't think in terms of people on sides, just about arrogant hackers. Of course there are all kinds of people who only ever consider their own ideas to be worthwhile.

If this is the case for hackers then I can at least see a very good reason for it. The _only_ reason I learned to program was for the power it gives me to create new things and explore whatever I want.

Take that away from me? Forget it, I'll do any number of occupations where I can earn more.

But some things are hard or impossible to achieve alone, so teaming up with others might be necessary.

Indeed, indeed.