Per a very worrisome concurrent to this 4 8 2017 thread about stroke survival and cost, how is a UBI in a land of 'buy more hamburger, buy more tobacco, buy more white bread, buy more audience-centric entertainments' ... maybe all using non-pedestrian means for the purchase [ vehicle, taxi, ...] not having a hidden cost to society in obesity/stroke/diabetes constant diet and exercise sub-par but par for that the neighbors are doing and up to and demand for friendliness, earlier stroke risk in a sizable number of the UBI while young but much more less healthy, not out of breath activities during ones day 2019 vs 1819, and the consequential thirty years after its onset not Pritikin or similar while young and in one's productive years, tearing asunder the capacity of society to deal with it in a traditionally within-ones-extended family medical care with once a week medical assitance, where the norm is now maybe or will be, confiscate, put in villa of warehoused stroke obese survival bedrooms, with TV, cake, etc, and overworked underpaid and maybe even deprived of retirement income for current health plan tax, nursing staff and the like?......
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For instance, I was once bullied into obesity and suffer a consequential decades later heart risk I only learned existed while passing a clean stress test, then learning a few weeks ago that per /r/medicine that small plaques are omnipresent for STEMI fatal consequences and all the while unbeknownst to
the bearer of same [ I ] and his doctor and the like, invisible on EKG and the stress test, and a dangerous onset in the young people of today, should they be inside during the many hours our forefathers were picking cotton, treading in the woods trapping wildlife, praying for their next meal without an electric kitchen, and at time suffering mini starvations in village and forest enclave and/or during winters and/or during times such as the Dust Bowl or Great Depression when bus rides, one's vehicle in front to go to/from appointment, ER, movie, restaurant,takeout, pizza aisle special coupon venue, grocery to excess with an electric car at the assist, etc, and other in-city in-town behind-gated-walls within-HOA within residential condo enclave with elevator not stairs, and on and on, and due to the 85% spending of what is spent by women head of household vs that 1810-ish no credit card for women yet, much less bank account nor vehicle, and the like, but a ring finger from which to ask allowance for the meal in the few hours the farm owner or ranch owner or
town storeowner with closures every Sat Sun as a matter of course, was home and had limited 'where is our next meal coming from' times of solace within each others' shared fears and prayers vs celebrations from remote 'what about the weather at the other side of the world, what we can do to help' hours of 'are you with, or against' polls needing hours of divisiveness, take sides, slander if one is into that cup of tea, and the like, parisan to well-fed plaque-while-we-talk or plaque-as-we-view stroke-risk-more-next-week-than-this-week, oops,that is 500K, as per YN on 4 8 2107, frightening the high pulse pressure wonderer and concerned person for the health of his literate and skilled former colleagues and present-day citizenry, beset by cost and ethics conundrums, but always at the ready to inquire of each other, and may I paraphrase what I heard while waiting for a wrist Xray after a spill,
female... it is 2pm, have you overeaten yet? yummy!
male... Yes I overate, but only once, So good!
female... and last saturday?
male... Yes, I had that plate at such and such restaurant, but it was only overeating because of the previous day's birthday party for ____________ relative, which was so yummy!
Which is not to be overly critical of the conversation, because I was once a part of a same group and overfed, but due to ignorance and naive utopian goal from being bullied that in hindsight was only extremely damaging to my own health, vs victimizng to others which one could take it as, since it encouraged overeating if one was observing my overeating, and was accompanied by my strange silences as one by birth-surgery isolation not very conversant, still, in conversation as I prefer to write to expound, as this, and
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well, whatever.
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tl;dr... UBI may impose a decades-later extreme uptrend in stroke among a not-small
subset of its recipients... costly to society and the families of those UBI gainers of income at the earliest years of its onset.
Something to put into the mix, if one is so inclined. [ text input box here not conducive to editing, and also out of time, dual-reason only of draft quality small treatise, I as newbie to YN may be excused. Thanks! IAMYD ]
Which is not to be overly critical of the conversation, because I was once a part of a same group and overfed, but due to ignorance and naive utopian goal from being bullied that in hindsight was only extremely damaging to my own health, vs victimizng to others which one could take it as, since it encouraged overeating if one was observing my overeating, and was accompanied by my strange silences as one by birth-surgery isolation not very conversant, still, in conversation as I prefer to write to expound, as this, and .... well, whatever. ..... tl;dr... UBI may impose a decades-later extreme uptrend in stroke among a not-small subset of its recipients... costly to society and the families of those UBI gainers of income at the earliest years of its onset. Something to put into the mix, if one is so inclined. [ text input box here not conducive to editing, and also out of time, dual-reason only of draft quality small treatise, I as newbie to YN may be excused. Thanks! IAMYD ]