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> We have police, laws, community rules, all of these things to protect our houses and personal security. If you leave the door unlocked, robbing it is still a crime. Likewise, if you walk around on an unsafe neighbourhood and get robbed, it would be ludicrous to hear "well, the city warned you that part is unsafe, so the police isn't going to investigate"

The irony of this statement is that this actually happens quite often in certain east of the track neighborhoods, especially when the victim is a minority. It goes to show that this attitude, while I don't agree with it, isn't so far from the reality as you might think.

Coming from out west, this is one of the cultural reasons I am pro-gun. The police are just there to draw the chalk line around your body, it is your responsibility to defend yourself, your loved ones, and your home.

Always remember that the constitution was created to protect, not establish rights, rights that you have independent of the constitution itself, and of these rights, the right to self defense is one. The second amendment is simply about defense against tyranny. Even if you got rid of the second amendment I still have the right to bear arms.

Which makes me wonder, how well could the right to self defense argument be applied to encryption?

It's almost like everyone forgot about the 90's crypto wars, but it makes me think of something Eben Moglen said about the 90's crypto wars being just a temporary setback to TPTB;

https://youtu.be/sKOk4Y4inVY?t=580



This might be very cultural thing(I'm from Europe). But unless you want to live in a society dominated by warlords and gangs, laws and society is the better way imo. Again my opinion, but for me the gun defense is a myth perpetuated in the US for ideological reasons. Keep your guns,but they won't keep you safe against a gang which will just shiv you at night, or simply outgun you. The reason all civilisations of a certain density have centralised law enforcement is it's simply inefficient for everyone to defend themselves (think narco states: sure, you can hire a guard, but your neighbour also has to hire one. If you try to start a neighbourhood guard cooperation then you are one step towards government and police)

And coming from Europe, we create new rights all the time


This is actually the topic of an old xkcd: https://xkcd.com/504/




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