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Inflation adjustment doesn't take into account costs that are prevalent in an era but totally absent in another: like internet access, cellphone bills, and such.

I'm glad you've agreed with me that life has done nothing but get better. We're all winners, whereas by modern standards our parents were all losers.

As for the other things you bring up, basically none of the facts fit your story.

Homeownership has ranged from 64% to 69% since the 60's, but houses are twice as big.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home-ownership_in_the_United_S...

http://www.realtor.org/RMODaily.nsf/pages/News2007032701?Ope...

Apparently there's no difficulty owning a home.

College enrollments (as a % of new graduates) has done nothing but climb.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/images/2010/ted_20100428.png

Note how: "after adjusting for inflation, today’s average hourly wage

That's because we get more non-wage benefits and fewer dollars per hour. Real compensation per hour has done nothing but rise.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/COMPRNFB

Why not google these facts before making nonsensical arguments?




>I'm glad you've agreed with me that life has done nothing but get better. We're all winners, whereas by modern standards our parents were all losers.

Only in the sense that being a loser with a cellphone makes you a winner over a winner in the 60s without a cellphone.

But I don't think "availability/access to gadgets and avocados" is of primary concern when one considers whether "life getting better" over access to housing, steady employment, healthcare access, savings, and other such things.

An example of this "winning":

In 2015, when researchers Ann Case and Angus Deaton discovered that death rates had been rising dramatically since 1999 among middle-aged white Americans, they weren't sure why people were dying younger, reversing decades of longer life expectancy.

In a follow-up to their groundbreaking 2015 work, they say that a lack of steady, well-paying jobs for whites without college degrees has caused pain, distress and social dysfunction to build up over time. The mortality rate for that group, ages 45 to 54, increased by a half-percent each year from 1999 to 2013.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/03/23/52108333...

>College enrollments (as a % of new graduates) has done nothing but climb.

That's the problem of numbers, they say nothing without context.

Though this one is so obvious I'm not sure it's worth discussing.

Isn't it obvious for example that college enrollments have mainly climbed because getting by (getting a job above minimum wage) without one is not as easy as it was in decades past, and are thus becoming de facto mandatory?

Remember those "middle age despair deaths" I mentioned above? "But whites with college degrees haven't suffered the same lack of economic opportunity, and haven't seen the same loss of life expectancy."

And isn't it also obvious that this "climbing of college enrollments" is happening only with increased student debt (from even 0 back in decades past), that has reached enormous amounts for millions of people?

If people in the 40s and 50s has a gun in their head to get a college degree to find a job, and if they took huge loans to be able to afford it, then they would have the same percentage of "climbing college enrollments" too...

>That's because we get more non-wage benefits and fewer dollars per hour. Real compensation per hour has done nothing but rise.

Yeah, wonder what these millions of working class losers are complaining about... Entitled scum, the whole lot of them...


You might be right that reduced status for white males is causing them to suffer psychologically. They may also engage in harmful lifestyles that reduce their life expectancy.

I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem, but we just need to accept that we're no longer automatically at the top of the heap. I similarly agree that the lack of work and easy ability to be idle is harming people's psyches. But this is a totally different problem.


>I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem, but we just need to accept that we're no longer automatically at the top of the heap.

Not an American, not a horse in the white males losing their status race, etc.

So don't particularly care for the weaselly "frame his sending this link as racism/white anger" angle ("I'm sorry you feel that reduced status for white people is a problem").

The issue pointed to is increased unemployment and scarce of blue collar jobs. It takes some twist it to turn it into some "reduced status for white people" problem in the sense of racist rhetoric. In fact it's a totally irrelevant reading, if not purposefully bad.

Reduced status as pertaining to white vs other races is irrelevant to whites losing their blue collar jobs. Whites could be getting less unemployment and still lose their status as superior to other races in American society, or they could lose their jobs and still retain their racist/top-of-the-heap status (and in fact racism often increases when unemployment rises -- just ask the Weimar republic. Germans were never poorer, but they sure increased their "top of the heap" status over jews).

And of course it's not just for white people -- it's just the demographic the research focused on. As if blacks for example have no issues with lack of blue collar jobs and lack of degrees (two things mentioned in the article). It's just that for blacks, premature deaths like mentioned in the article (and worse) have always been common, and nobody bats an eye.

I'm merely pointing something your "we're winning vs decades past" idea forgot, and which affects tons of people.


Actually no, the the upward trend in mortality is primarily a white people problem. Mid life mortality has significantly decreased for blacks and hispanics.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5FB2/production/_...

You seem to be focusing on whites when they are the exception. Weird.

I'm also not sure why you are discussing a lack of jobs now. Wasn't the original topic that we work too hard? And what evidence do you have that we lack jobs?

Given that virtually all of your factual claims have been disproven, I think you need to offer some evidence before I take this seriously.




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