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So if it turns out that the whole universe is at least 64 times larger than the visible portion then we are in fact already in a black hole!



> if it turns out that the whole universe is at least 64 times larger than the visible portion then we are in fact already in a black hole!

No. The universe is expanding. If it were a black hole, it would not be expanding.


Actually I think I just gave the Big Crunch hypothesis. The universe can be expanding so long as it eventually collapses. Even in a normal black hole forming out of a star, some particles will happen to be heading out as the star collapses and then be dragged back in after the black hole forms.


> Actually I think I just gave the Big Crunch hypothesis. The universe can be expanding so long as it eventually collapses.

Even in this case it's not correct to say that the universe is a black hole. The spacetime geometry is very different. A black hole, as I've posted elsewhere in this thread, is a region from which light can't escape to infinity. But in a universe that will end up in a Big Crunch, there is no infinity: space has a finite volume (which increases up to maximum expansion and then decreases back to zero).


Then can any black hole exist in such a universe?


In a closed universe that collapses to a Big Crunch, no, no black holes can exist. Everything will eventually come back together at the crunch.


The universe is expanding in volume, but not mass. Thus some years ago the current visible portion did fit inside a 14Bly radius.


It would give an "intuitive" explanation to why we can only see the inside of the universe.


No explanation needed if the age of the universe is finite.




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