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Ask YC: Is web 2.0 over?
6 points by deltapoint on March 16, 2008 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments
So is it?



well, i think you need to look at things this way:

a) A big trend emerges, it's the cutting edge. All new. aka Web 2.0 three years ago. It brings about new philosophies, cost structures, ways to communicate,etc. An entire culture thrives around it, tons of money is poured in, and we find out what works via trial+error. b) This trend eventually normalizes and becomes "standard". Everything we learned via this trial and error, becomes part of all products. Social networking is becoming less and less a "site" as it is becoming an integrated feature of existing properties. It's also influencing the way startups are run and built. Think about it, the trends + technology in the past 3 years, have made it possible for things like YC to exist (OS software, low cost requirements, ease of distribution, distributed teams,etc.)

So in short, not it's not over, it's just becoming assimilated into everything.


Define "web 2.0" and then I'll try to answer the question.


I don't think the idea of a web 2.0 era, version, or set of technologies is very compelling. I do find the notion helpful for classifying user experience though.

I consider the most sophisticated apps today to be web 2.5 ("service web"): cross-site APIs/widgets and the resulting mashups.

And then web 2.0 ("social web") as single sites with readable/writeable content. Forums, social news, sharing sites.

Web 1.5 ("application web") as writeable sites. Webmail, instant messaging, site builders, search engines.

Web 1.0 ("document web") as single sites with solely readable content. Blogs, arcades, galleries, oldnews, papers, homepages.

When we integrate structured portable data, the social graph, cross-device interfaces, and decentralized identity, I think we'll have something to call web 3.0.


Define: Web 2.0?

Read about "Hype Cycles" if you are not already familiar with them: http://www.gartner.com/pages/story.php.id.8795.s.8.jsp

As i see it, the dot com bust (or web 1.0) was just the natural "trough of disillusionment" for the hype cycle of the Interweb.

Web 2.0 is just the "slope of enlightenment" for the aforementioned Interweb (now known as the Intertubes)

M.


lol, no one will ever agree on a definition.


It is up to your interpretation


http://web2.0validator.com/

(Yeah, I made that ...)


You answered your own question


Are you fking kidding me? Web 2.0 just mean the web is starting to work right.

Seriously, Web 1.0 isn't over. Step out of the reality distortion field. Nowbody outside of digg/reddit/news.y/oreilly knows what the heck the web really is let alone web 2.0. Just make good stuff. That never goes out of style...


Oh yeah, you need to run Windows Update to get Web 3.0 now ;)


sorry, Web 3.0 isn't compatible with Vista. You'll have to wait for SP2 for the drivers to work :-P


Windows is attempting to download valuable new updates from the Internet. Cancel or allow?

There has been an error from which Windows could not recover. Windows will now restart your system. Cancel or allow?

Windows recovered from a serious error which requires updates to repair. Cancel or allow?

Windows is attempting to download valuable new updates from the Internet. Cancel or allow?

There has been an error from which Windows could not recover--

Windows has detected that your machine has been hurled from a 14th story window and will now report your malfeasance to Microsoft. Cancel or allow, bitch?


Well, I'm not fond of the term Web 2.0 as you can see from an article I wrote. http://duffsdevice.blogspot.com/2008/01/from-web-20-to-web-3...

Web 2.0 is over when this bubble pops. Web 3.0 starts with the next bubble.


We've already upgraded to web 3.0, a.k.a., facebook apps.


I think Facebook apps are Web 2.5.

Web 3.0 might be the meshing of the interactiveness of Web 2.0 with premium content that goes beyond YouTube. Think Joost, only evolved beyond crap video.

Web 3.0 might be content designed and built for the web, as TV transitions into an internet appliance (through stuff like Apple TV) rather than a one-way entertainment destination.

And until we start to see this stuff in full swing, Web 2.0 can't be officially declared dead.


Facebook apps are web 0.5, a.k.a. AOL, a.k.a. walled gardens that won't survive against real open communities. (I'm half kidding.)


$ web --version

3.4alpha

You're a bit behind...




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