> Yeah sorry I didn't mean to imply that you don't have concrete goals (although I couldn't find them explicitly stated in your website), only that this kind of "rethinking computing/storage/interaction" projects are often hard to approach from the outside.
Ah, infer and imply - perfect for ibGib! I say this because I didn't make that inferrence about concrete goals. It was more of like an event that prompts more attention to the concept of concreteness. As for the website, I hope it is quite obvious that is a WIP! ;-) I'm not a great front-end person, as I am super abstract and backend-ish, which segues nicely into...
> How easy is it to detach the engine from the user interface in ibgib?
The UI/web app is totally just a view into the engine (which is itself just the current expression of the "concept of ibGib"). It allows us to explore these abstract concepts more concretely. The plan is to have a CLI, an API, and possibly an isomorphic secondary implementation that allows for occasionally disconnected scenarios. The POC was attempted in isomorphic client/server javascript/typescript, but the complete parallel/concurrent aspect of it was too unwieldy. Elixir (Erlang and the BEAM(!)) turned out to be ridiculously well-suited for it, and their community and documentation is stellar.
> I'd like to create something less "bubbly" for myself, but I could learn about how you use your simple data model to build domain objects.
To me, this is incredibly easy to do. But I'm not sure if DeepUI's HN thread is quite the right venue for such a thing. I would love to work with you (and anyone else interested) in a GitHub issue. I am holding off on doing my own Show HN because I want a couple more specific features before doing such a thing. (I wasn't planning on speaking this much, but the comment was just too perfect).
> Just curious, how does a data model touch religion? :-D
ibGib is less a data model and more a projection of a certain type of logic...it's a "meta-logic", which ends up being the logic. This is similar to how any turing machine can emulate any other turing machine. The point is that I've been developing this logic for just about my whole life. I was that kid who slept through class, did no homework, got 800 SAT/36 ACT math scores, etc. But axiomatic systems, and the process of actually applying math, and proofs, rigor, etc. all didn't sit well with me. Neither did religion. Now it does. But that's a perfect opportunity for a GitHub issue or an ibGib. I don't have notifications implemented yet, but collaborating is actually implemented in that you can add comments/pics/links to anyone's existing ibGib that you have a link to.
Ah, infer and imply - perfect for ibGib! I say this because I didn't make that inferrence about concrete goals. It was more of like an event that prompts more attention to the concept of concreteness. As for the website, I hope it is quite obvious that is a WIP! ;-) I'm not a great front-end person, as I am super abstract and backend-ish, which segues nicely into...
> How easy is it to detach the engine from the user interface in ibgib?
The UI/web app is totally just a view into the engine (which is itself just the current expression of the "concept of ibGib"). It allows us to explore these abstract concepts more concretely. The plan is to have a CLI, an API, and possibly an isomorphic secondary implementation that allows for occasionally disconnected scenarios. The POC was attempted in isomorphic client/server javascript/typescript, but the complete parallel/concurrent aspect of it was too unwieldy. Elixir (Erlang and the BEAM(!)) turned out to be ridiculously well-suited for it, and their community and documentation is stellar.
> I'd like to create something less "bubbly" for myself, but I could learn about how you use your simple data model to build domain objects.
To me, this is incredibly easy to do. But I'm not sure if DeepUI's HN thread is quite the right venue for such a thing. I would love to work with you (and anyone else interested) in a GitHub issue. I am holding off on doing my own Show HN because I want a couple more specific features before doing such a thing. (I wasn't planning on speaking this much, but the comment was just too perfect).
> Just curious, how does a data model touch religion? :-D
ibGib is less a data model and more a projection of a certain type of logic...it's a "meta-logic", which ends up being the logic. This is similar to how any turing machine can emulate any other turing machine. The point is that I've been developing this logic for just about my whole life. I was that kid who slept through class, did no homework, got 800 SAT/36 ACT math scores, etc. But axiomatic systems, and the process of actually applying math, and proofs, rigor, etc. all didn't sit well with me. Neither did religion. Now it does. But that's a perfect opportunity for a GitHub issue or an ibGib. I don't have notifications implemented yet, but collaborating is actually implemented in that you can add comments/pics/links to anyone's existing ibGib that you have a link to.