>> People who say 'look, the parliament is elected, therefore the system is democratic'
Well, those people are not me. I noted that MEPs come from outside the traditional political establishment and that MEPs like Farage, and others, represent views that are also traditionally left out of governance. That's not the "mechanism" in the abstract. It's the actual nitty-gritty of how it all works out in the end.
And that's your demos right there- the people, not the elites, or the corporations or whomever. The EU is democratic because it gives people an opportunity to choose its direction. The UK for instance, it chose to get out.
The Soviets? There you go- they couldn't vote themselves out of being Soviet. EU citizens can.
Just because a citizen has a representative doesn't mean the whole apparatus becomes accountable in his eyes any more legitimate than an occupying power.
Look at it this way; how many EU citizens do you think are willing to die in a ditch somewhere in Lithuania for the European project ?
These are important aspect of the philosophy of government. I suggest reading the books of Sir Roger Scruton if you really want to understand why.
Well, those people are not me. I noted that MEPs come from outside the traditional political establishment and that MEPs like Farage, and others, represent views that are also traditionally left out of governance. That's not the "mechanism" in the abstract. It's the actual nitty-gritty of how it all works out in the end.
And that's your demos right there- the people, not the elites, or the corporations or whomever. The EU is democratic because it gives people an opportunity to choose its direction. The UK for instance, it chose to get out.
The Soviets? There you go- they couldn't vote themselves out of being Soviet. EU citizens can.
Still not seeing how it's all so undemocratic.