Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast.

Yes, it's alright for people after an election to make an informed assertion that things look irregular and should be double checked.

Yes, it's alright to have a recount even if we think and hope it will change or reveal nothing, especially since it's funded by private donations.

These things are in no way incompatible.

> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast.

Even if the polls are rigged?

Trump said the election was rigged (specifically saying the polling places are rigged: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/78769993071869542...) and refused to say whether he would accept the results.

> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast.

Democrats were lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots for weeks before the election, including on Hacker News:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12728167

Even if the election was rigged against the Democrats, it's not like it wasn't completely deserved. You don't get to oppose attempts to prevent election fraud before the election and then complain about election fraud afterwards.

I clicked through the link. Where are the examples of HN democrats "lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots"? I see HN users decrying Trump's vague self-serving complaints, but nothing against secure voting. Just because I hate sloppy programmers who blindly say that a program is probably going to crash because that's what programs "just do" but it doesn't mean I'm against testing or error handling.

I agree that there's hypocrisy going on, but I haven't seen Clinton or Obama or Warren claim fraud. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Poor timing in my part: looks like Clinton's team is joining the recount effort. http://nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us/politics/clinton-camp-will-...

Republican state governments have been claiming election fraud for years, as a justification for passing Voter ID laws.

The hypocresy is from the side that refused to denounce Trump when he was foaming at the mouth yelling riggeeed! And now they don't like it when some people, not clinton nor obama, ask questions.

To be fair, neither Obama nor Clinton have commented on this.

Since nobody is talking about Trump's claim, but instead on ballot integrity, this political jab is entirely unrelated to the thread. Injecting unrelated volatile political topics into threads is a form of trolling.

Please don't try to prevent people from discussing the actual topic of a thread by derailing them with partisan politics.

None of the people you mentioned have said the election is rigged or that they won't respect the fact that Trump won.

Correct. But their surrogates have.

To their credit, neither Clinton or Obama are participating in this sh*tshow.

It's sponsored by their much less reasonable voting base.