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Yeah, I moved here about two years ago.

The other big difference between LA and SF is like, the penalty for not working close to where you live is absolutely brutal. Taking BART or the subway is moderately annoying, but driving from the Silver Lake to Venice every day is absolutely horrifying.

So in Venice you got Google and Snapchat, although apparently most of Google is getting moved down to Playa Vista, you got a handful of small startups, lots of VR companies led by people with media rather than technical backgrounds (maybe that's fine?), and that's about it.

Nearby you got EA in Playa del Rey (kill me), you got some old companies in Santa Monica and a couple more startups that don't seem interesting necessarily.

Even SpaceX is a pretty far cruise from the Santa Monica/Venice area, but there are a bunch more companies that hire engineers in that El Segundo area, but not necessarily ones that you would want to work at.

It's interesting, certainly, and I think the Snapchat IPO will lead to a lot of rich guys suddenly turning angel and so on. LA has basically never had any real exits until very recently (dollar shave, snapchat), which has limited the development of the ecosystem. Every old guy in LA is like "did you know I founded Myspace?" Based on my time in LA, I would have to estimate the number of founders of Myspace around 3-500. Also stamps dot com.

In summary, I would say LA is pretty much like New York City circa 2005.

The complete secret weapon of LA though is UCLA. The quality of graduates coming out of UCLA computer science is staggering, and from the hiring side, they're not competed for or recruited as heavily as say Stanford kids.




Worked in Tech in Los Angeles since 2000. Although lesser known as "tech" companies, there are several companies that have large investments in serious technology in LA:

Disney NBCU (specifically Fandango, parts of former M-Go) Ticketmaster/Live Nation eHarmony Edmunds.com The Honest Company

Other Tech companies left off the list: Hulu Yahoo (much smaller than before) AOL Hyperloop One and Faraday Future are coming up


Disney Animation (Burbank) employees a fair number of tech peeps.


glassdoor salary for systems engineer there is real low


I'm not surprised -- they pulled some shady moves with visas and stuff a couple years back too.


Glassdoor salaries always look low


Interesting, they're all media companies.


Yes. In LA almost all serious tech jobs are media company related.


Factual.com Location Data company with some serious tech chops.


What about aerospace and defense?


Perhaps "media" is too broad a term. I think there's a concentration of certain types of industries - entertainment video, gaming, ecommerce, adtech, automotive, some fintech, some social media.

What there isn't a lot of is "engineering", "cloud", "enterprise" technology. The GitHubs, Herokus, AWSs of the world are not yet here in LA. For those of us who are engineering focused, we generally do tech for companies that don't "sell" technology to other engineers, that's focused in SF and Seattle. Not any less valid just a different audience.


Yep. Go Bruins!


What the F? What about Qualcomm/Broadcom.


Isn't Qualcomm in San Diego?


I don't think the exasperation is warranted. Grandparent's claim is that "it's like New York City circa 2005" and not comparable to the Bay Area.

Why would adding Qualcomm or Broadcom invalidate that claim?


Because you seem to focus on e-commerce/web startups, but there are established engineering companies in the SoCal area too.


Sure, but missing a few in an "sample" list of SoCal doesn't change the fact that the Bay Area has 10x the people working on tech. A list of SoCal might include satellite offices for Google, etc. But Google's campuses in the south bay have tens of thousands of employees.




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