I got excited for a moment, but then I saw Notion is only for Mac and also not self hosted. :(

It's a web app - the Mac app is only an Electron wrapper.

It works well on Windows/Mac/Linux/iOS/Android in the browser (I would know, I use it on all of those personally).

Self hosted would certainly be nice - I use their 'Export All' feature to keep a copy of my spaces for myself.

Incidentally I got lazy a while back and my very basic homepage (https://tekacs.com/) on the web is actually a redirect to a page on Notion (yes it requires JavaScript and doesn't SEO well, but amusingly I can update it in realtime whilst you're looking at it ;P)

Oh, I see. I couldn't tell from their homepage that it was actually a web app, with the Mac download link and all screenshots looking like a Mac application.

Will give it a go, then.

I got the same feeling.

Does it have exports and backups? And do you know how long they've been around?

It looks very tempting, but I want to know whether they'll be around a while. I know I can rely on trello and onenote.

Andrea from Notion here. We do have one-click export to markdown, but not an automatic backup function. We get requests for that sometimes though, so we'd consider it. :)

We've been building Notion for 2 years and have a great backing team who truly believe in our vision:

https://www.notion.so/investors

https://www.notion.so/why

I want to like Notion. It's great in theory but it's not ready yet, at least for me. It does a lot which is awesome but doesn't seem to do any of those things great. I love all the different formats of things it supports / handles though.

I need something that is easy to use on mobile.

If it's supposed to replace my bookmark tool I need to be able to add a bookmark with one click and categorize it etc. Same with my todo list and general notes.

Will follow the project though.

Andrea from Notion here. The web browser works pretty well and we're building an iOS app right now also. No web clipper yet but we'd consider it. :)

Wow, this looks really good, thank you for sharing! Can the files feature be integrated with Dropbox/GDrive (I can't find this on their page)?

I'm not sure whether you mean importing files from Dropbox/GDrive to Notion or vice versa! Neither is possible, as far as I'm aware.

You /can/ have it grab a file from a link - if you can get the raw file link from Dropbox (maybe the share link?), you can import files that way.

They seem to be adding features at a very high clip, so it's also possible to just ask them and it wouldn't surprise me if they added it within a few weeks.

Thanks for the answer. I meant export in the sense that I could have a backup of all files stored on the separate cloud hosting.

This looks great! I've been trying out Airtable recently (also great...very similar homepage too) but this might fill in a few gaps for me. Thanks!

It looks very similar to Dropbox Paper.

Dropbox Paper was a flop for me - this is /several orders of magnitude/ more flexible.

Note how many products I mentioned it replacing - I maintained a MediaWiki instance of my own for /years/ and dropped it alongside half a dozen other tools because I didn't need them when using Notion.