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Externalities are a word we use to describe costs we find hard to model, but I find that most externalities do cost corporations real money. They just often aren't aware of it and haven't developed enough sophistication in their business cases to account for it. The best companies who support their security teams understand this. They understand that broken things lose them trust, customers and goodwill and those things are, even from a purely monetary and numerical perspective, incredibly valuable for a successful business in the long term.

The problem is not merely whether or not a profit motive exists to do right, but whether or not a business is insightful enough to model the full costs and include what we normally let go unexamined as mere "externalities".




Externality != "hard to model". Rather, it means difficult to internalise.

Garrett Hardin's "Tragedy of the Commons" gives a quite simple model of what an externality can be (overgrazing). The problem isn't in the modelling, but rather in the mutual enforcement of a collectively beneficial behavior.

That isn't to say that there aren't costs which are hard to model, but that's an orthogonal issue, and can apply just as well to internalised effects (e.g., the goodwill loss of a massive security breach) as to externalities.

Goodwill loss is not an externality.

I agree, adamantly, with your comment that businesses are frequently not enlightened or intelligent enough to model full costs. I'm seeing the issue of the long-term development of both cost and benefit awareness as a pressing issue, general to economics. It undermines many of the assertions of market efficiency.




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